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Chris Squire - FISH OUT OF WATER [DTS DVD]

Rate the DTS DVD of Chris Squire - FISH OUT OF WATER

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ssully

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I stand corrected. But I think you know what I'm alluding to. None of my players and pre/pros are capable of hi res 96/24 replication from DVD~V......just the Core lossy 16/48. So what player/DACs does Jim utilize to access the higher def 96/24 from DTS?
Any DTS 96/24-compliant hardware device can decode DTS 96/24. Which is basically a DTS 'core' lossy encoding with ultrasonic frequency content added back in. (It's still lossy). DTS 96/24 AVRs etc have been common for many years now.

If you feed a DTS 96/24 encode into a 'plain' DTS-compliant device, it will decode the same DTS 'core' without the ultrasonic content.

Unless you are a bat you are unlikely to hear any difference, in a properly conducted comparison.

Ripping software like DVD Audio Extractor can also rip the DTS 96/24 data, or just the core, depending on settings.
 

Jim the Oldbie

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Just got this in the mail today, listening now, nearly finished. Wow. I was not prepared for this at all.

This surround mix is so different from the stereo version I've known and loved all these years. There's lots of stuff that wasn't there before, and vice versa. And the sound is so changed! The whole space occupied by this mix feels completely different. Where the stereo was big & raucous, this 5.1 is more intimate and elegant. The stereo sound was a big, creaky old orchestra hall; this is a modern, well-designed studio.

The instruments and vocals sound wonderful. Gone is that familiar crust of distortion, that glommed-together sound that seems to plague the original stereo mixes of so many of these classic recordings. Now we hear each individual part, clean and crystal-clear. This continues to just amaze the shit out of me, how good these original tracks sound (and conversely, how messed-up they got on the original path to stereo mixing & mastering, way back when). This sounds like it was recorded last week! (Would that it was possible, sigh.)

For me (and many of you, I presume), much of the draw of this old music is the emotional connection to the past. In later years for example, listening to Fish Out Of Water could often transport me back to one singular, indescribable summer of outdoor parties, running sound for my buddies' band (and smoking a lot of weed). I've been really impressed by how a lot of these recent multi remixes can still take me back like that, while sounding new and different at the same time! I don't know how much of this is intentional, and how much happy accident, but it's pretty amazing when it happens.

Sadly, this 5.1 Fish ain't gonna do that for me. And while this is certainly disappointing, I'm not ready to write the whole thing off. There's a lot to like here; it's just really different. It's like running into one of your old hard-partying high school buddies after 45-some years, and finding out he's really gotten his act together; like, you can understand what he's saying and everything now!

I'm gonna give this reunion a chance. :)

-- Jim

P.S. Just one major gripe: the sax solo toward the end of "Lucky Seven" is WAY TOO GOD-DAMN LOUD!! What the hell is that about.

[EDIT] Just had a listen to the hi-res remaster of the original stereo mix, and it's quite nice. Still has the same old "vibe," but with clearer sound, even somewhat better dynamics than my old CD copy, which I think was a Japanese import? (Too lazy to dig it out of the closet.) Anyway, if I do decide the 5.1 isn't gonna work out, at least there's this. Not sure if it was worth seventy-two bucks, but it's pretty good. Ya pays ya money, ya takes ya chances...
 
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4-earredwonder

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An interesting perspective on the 5.1 remix courtesy of Bullmoose Records starting at 11:09*: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...302ACCFE0A7F7D3F49CF302ACCFE0A7F&&FORM=VDRVRV

Probably the best current price for the boxset on the web: https://www.importcds.com/fish-out-of-water/5013929472044 [AmazonUS' price is close to $90]

*From the unboxing of the Fish Out of Water boxset

BTW, NOW available as a Stereo SACD from ImportCD: https://www.importcds.com/dont-say-no/707129301499

Addenda: JUST placed an order w/ImportCD for Fish Out of Water. At least I'll get a hi res stereo remaster and since I'm NOT at all well acquainted with this album, I'm sure I'll be thrilled with the 5.1 remix. Ironically, AmazonUS with TAX would've been $96 and for $3 more [than the Amazon price for FOOW, alone] I added two brilliant BIS and Chandos Classical mch SACDs to the ImportCD order [Bernstein's On The Waterfront/Fanfares].

YIKES: just checked AmazonUK's price [£84.94] and in US currency that's $115 + s/h [without VAT removed]........:eek::eek::eek::eek: Ironic, since it IS a UK import!

YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE!:SG
 
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blue.monk

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I've enjoyed rediscovering this album. Good stuff. I was never as familiar with it as I was with 70's Yes material. As a result I'm not too bothered by (or often aware of) the liberties Jakko has taken with the mix. To my ears the elements sound nicely balanced and the fidelity is strong. I voted 9.
 

Jim the Oldbie

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This is just me, but I'm having a hard time assigning a single rating number to this stuff. I don't mind talking about it (and talking, and talking...), but to summarize the experience with a numbered vote is difficult.
 

jimfisheye

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This is just me, but I'm having a hard time assigning a single rating number to this stuff. I don't mind talking about it (and talking, and talking...), but to summarize the experience with a numbered vote is difficult.
Me too. And then the discussion usually digresses. I just comment now and skip the voting part. :)
 

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Pre-ordered mine at Cherry Red, it shipped to USA on Apr 4th, and then was held in US Customs until June 9th. My local USPS postmaster was just as surprised as me when it finally showed up, we both figured it was lost or worse, All I can say is I’m so happy it’s here, I just love it,
 

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This is a worthy addition to any surround sound fan’s collection. It’s expensive...but man that soundscape opens up like a blooming flower on fast forward. It’s crisp and punchy while the orchestrations are lush and exciting. I imagine I’ll reach for this title instead of many other surround sound titles on my shelves....
 
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