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    Default Re: Rush - MOVING PICTURES [BLU-RAY]

    Quote Originally Posted by DennisMabry View Post
    Whenever we get a major title released in surround, i.e.. "Beatles - Love", "Pink Floyd-Dark Side Of The Moon" Beach Boys - Pet Sounds" it seems that the remarks and votes on the polls here at QQ are all over the map. Some love it some hate it.

    Not that we should all bow down and worship each release (We're not worthy ). But I find it noteworthy that we here in the surround community can't even come to an agreement. What are the artists and record companies supposed to think when considering more surround releases? I mean we are actually a niche within a niche to begin with. Yes I know sales numbers and profits are the deciding factor and they just want to find something that everybody wants to buy.
    Take in consideration that the engineer, on whatever particular project, is mixing to their tastes, and/or maybe what they are told the release should sound like. Not what you or I think it should sound like. Take it or leave it, it is what it is, like it or not. I'm not thrilled with this mix (my biggest complaint is that I like the vocals to be more in the center channel) but, understanding the circumstance, I'd rather have a good to excellent surround mix than no surround mix at all. Based on several facts, I'll probably wind up giving this release either an 8 or 9, and will vote as soon as I get a full album, uninterrupted sit down, listen. I was just sitting here wondering if I'll ever open my CD+DVD copy. I really like what they did with the Blu-ray version. I like the fact that the page will turn automatically on the lyrics with the Blu-ray. I have no clue why they chose not to have this feature with the DVD version. My only quibble with this is, while both of my television sets are only 42 inches, they made the lyrics kind of small and harder to read from a distance.

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    Default Re: Rush - MOVING PICTURES [BLU-RAY]

    I have it on now in my media room with no distractions for the second run through...

    I never owned the LP way back or have any comparisons, but this is great.

    'Picture' perfect.

    10 for the Blu PCM 5.1 track.
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    Default Re: Rush - MOVING PICTURES [BLU-RAY]

    A couple of notes - on my cheap (but new) BR play it takes about 15-20 seconds to get to the main menu. Can older players be upgraded with firmware to make them load faster? Or is it like computer chips, you just need a newer one?

    I can see people voting on this anywhere from 5 to 10. The mix and the sound quality are unspectacular. But, it's a big step up from the original cd, though the cd did decode almost as well as this mix with DPLII. I really like the music and am enjoying listening to this a lot, so I'll probably wind up nearer to 10. Regardless, it's a HUGE step up from the pile of excrement that is the Snakes & Arrows DD mix. More please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaSlug View Post
    ...More please.
    Anthem... are you reading this ? You should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by filper View Post
    Anthem... are you reading this ? You should be.
    Yes, I still have more money. Come trade me Hi-Rez multichannel music for it.

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    Default Re: Rush - MOVING PICTURES [BLU-RAY]

    [ooops this post should be in the DVD-A thread]

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    Default Re: Rush - MOVING PICTURES [DVD-A]

    (moved from blu-ray thread, since I have the DVD-A, not the Blu-Ray, though I expect exactly zero sonic difference to exist between them....)

    Agreed that the 5.1 mix sounds better played loud, and agreed that the mixer should have put more vocal in the center channel. And given that this is a 3-piece band with not much happening in the way of keyboards or backing vocals, the mix engineer could have gone more crazy with the drum mix.

    (Also agreed that in the 70s', Rush music was considered 2nd-string prog by older prog fans. Their 13-yr-old brothers loved it, though. )

    I give it a 6.

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    One thing I've noticed giving this a few go rounds, is that there is a lot more going on delicately and subtle than one hears right away at first glance. There also seems to be a lot of real thought and reason for putting things where they are and as they are to compliment the songs and original stereo mix. One can agree or disagree with such things, but I'm quite satisfied with this rich mix and I'm noticing more detail which each listen, as with each and every RUSH album I've ever encountered. Also, tone and detail of instruments sound good and true, especially for a recording recorded 30 years ago.
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    Default Re: Rush - MOVING PICTURES [BLU-RAY]

    I gave it a 9. Almost was an 8, but I followed the advice to turn it up loud! It cranks very well. Regarding the complaint about lack of bass, it seems fine to me...

    I saw this concert 30 years ago, and this June, I will be doing a repeat. Until then, this will hold me over.

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    The bass is tight... not sloppy. Compared to most of the DVD-A's and SA-CD's from the era I have (ya, rocker me), if they had done all of them like this, we would still be heading to the music stores on Saturday morning.

    I hope it's not 101 years until 2112....................

    There is great air on this one.
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    I did complain about the bass but after noticing my subwoofer wasn't set right, all is well. After listening to the whole album from start to finish, I have to say that, seeing the circumstances on why it was mixed this way, I'll have to give it a 10. The mix is very clear and precise. Originally, I did not like how the vocals were mixed but personally, I feel that not everyone is going to have a full range (or close to) center channel speaker to take advantage of this. Also, I'm not sure about the possibility of this 30 year old record but pulling (closer, as opposed to further back within the soundstage) the drums into the mix, a bit more, would have been nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perpendicular View Post
    ...I'm not sure about the possibility of this 30 year old record but pulling (closer, as opposed to further back within the soundstage) the drums into the mix, a bit more, would have been nice.
    I agree with you on that one. I think with Neil being the powerful drummer he is, he would have drowned out the other boys.

    Thank God he wasn't under-miked like Moon... actually the drums do vary in depth from song to song.

    The bass is dead on. I think the surround mix is how it should be.

    You really can crank this without listening fatigue... aside from the neighbours screaming out the windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by filper View Post
    You really can crank this without listening fatigue... aside from the neighbours screaming out the windows.
    If you're playing it at the right level, you shouldn't hear your neighbors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perpendicular View Post
    If you're playing it at the right level, you shouldn't hear your neighbors.
    It's what they yell between tracks... ingrates.
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    Default Re: Rush - MOVING PICTURES [DVD-A]

    Sounds great! I gave it a nine. Cool panning on Geddy's vocals. Alex sounds amazing. Could use a smudge more clarity on drums. I wonder what Eliot could have done. Obviously, first rate material. Thrilled with DVD-A release. Keep I coming. If this is because it's the 30th anniversary, did you know it's the 35th for 2112 and the 20th for Roll the Bones?
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    OK, I'm swinging... everywhere I look, I'm told the Blu-Ray edition of this will not be released until May 3th.
    Where is everyone getting the BDs so soon??
    I had to pre-order one at Amazon and Best Buy isn't listing them.
    Euro only for now??
    I'll cancel my Amazon Pre, if I can get a copy asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsquiresjr View Post
    OK, I'm swinging... everywhere I look, I'm told the Blu-Ray edition of this will not be released until May 3th.
    Where is everyone getting the BDs so soon??
    I had to pre-order one at Amazon and Best Buy isn't listing them.
    Euro only for now??
    I'll cancel my Amazon Pre, if I can get a copy asap.

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    It was a 30 day exclusive for Best Buy starting 4/5/2011. The key phrase being "while supplies last." For some reason, it is no longer being listed under music Blu Ray titles. However, this is the correct listing - it states that it is "unavailable for shipping" but you may be able to find it in stores - just type in your zip code under check for instore pick-up. This is the correct item for the Blu Ray version at Best Buy;

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Moving+P...808&id=2198227

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    The SKU# at BestBuy is 2276808, but I just checked and it looks like they are sold out online already. It says "Check Stores" and everyone of the stores in my area has it in stock.

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    Thanks for the info!
    I also see BB has it listed for $29.99 where Amazon has it listed for $19.99!
    Go figure for being exclusive!
    So do I wait 2 - 3 weeks?

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    Do all BluRay players have 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 Analog Audio Outputs ?

    Meaning, can anyone with a 'normal' digital receiver stumble upon surround music like I did eight years ago...
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    Quote Originally Posted by filper View Post
    Do all BluRay players have 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 Analog Audio Outputs ?
    None of mine do. Don't need it with the HDMI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsquiresjr View Post
    Thanks for the info!
    I also see BB has it listed for $29.99 where Amazon has it listed for $19.99!
    Go figure for being exclusive!
    So do I wait 2 - 3 weeks?

    -B
    Bob,

    When I was in BB this week, the Blu-Ray was $19.99 and the DVD-A was $17.99, however, the stickers on the product were in fact $29.99 and $27.99. I guess the sale is over at this point.
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    Just got back from best buy. They had 4 copies of the blu-ray and 5 copies of the dvda on the rack for 27-29 dollars. Yes, the sale is over unless they ring up a discount at the register.
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    Quote Originally Posted by filper View Post
    Do all BluRay players have 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 Analog Audio Outputs ?

    Meaning, can anyone with a 'normal' digital receiver stumble upon surround music like I did eight years ago...
    No. One must look long and hard to find a blu-ray player with analog outs. Samsung, toshiba, yamaha do. LG, panasonic, and sony don't. Usually its the older models that have them. The newer models seem to phase them out.

    De-embedders are available for those players that don't have them. That's the device that takes the HDMI signal and splits the audio to analog out and passes the video onto another HDMI output.
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    Yes, the sale is over... I just paid $31.79 for it. But at least I have it so that if anything F's up (and it sometimes does...)
    I won't be buying it on EBay for a hundred bux down the road!
    Thanks for all the responses!
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