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    Well my unsigned amazon Canada purchase has shipped and I got money back,

    Reason for refund: Pre-order price protection

    Here's a detailed breakdown of your refund:

    Item Refund: GBP0.15

    But its coming via DHL so I think I'll get stung by Import Duty etc.

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    Ok...just an update on that listing...did it sell?...check this out
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    Yes I was informed that I saved $.25 on this order due to pre-order price guarantee. I actually saved about $70 as compared to the going rate for this item.


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    Quote Originally Posted by timbre4 View Post
    Yes I was informed that I saved $.25 on this order due to pre-order price guarantee. I actually saved about $70 as compared to the going rate for this item.


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    Same here Timbre, Snood got me shipping notice toooooooooday and .25cents in me pocket


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snood View Post
    Same here Timbre, Snood got me shipping notice toooooooooday and .25cents in me pocket
    Canadians don't hate Snood. Enjoy your quarter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snood View Post
    Same here Timbre, Snood got me shipping notice toooooooooday and .25cents in me pocket
    Snood can put those two bits towards the next Roxy Music 5.1 remaster which by my calculations should be out around 2022 and factoring in inflation should set Snood back 250 bucks.......or 2000 BITS

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4-earredwonder View Post
    Snood can put those two bits towards the next Roxy Music 5.1 remaster which by my calculations should be out around 2022 and factoring in inflation should set Snood back 250 bucks.......or 2000 BITS
    Doubtful that future Roxy Music Surround releases will be anything like this one. If we get a deluxe For Your Pleasure box similar to this it would be very nice as the design and models (along with the band of course) were gorgeous and plentiful. The future is unknown. If Bob Clearmountain actually has (latter day album) mixes stashed away it gets infinitely easier. Nothing guaranteed even then.

    This one was planned to launch years ago. Then plans changed more than once on release timing, format and configuration. It sure seems like somebody close to it was not satisfied with the existing plans, took over and pumped it up. In some ways this was positive (book) but also negative(audio downgrade) where it mattered most. This same person calling the shots was persuaded that the older stereo tracks were a better choice than SWís newly created stereo mixes. Trust in old friends perhaps, didnít like the new mixes (!) or something along those lines.

    If we get any further Roxy Music Surround releases, I suspect the lessons learned from this one should inform the creative process. Surely the other albums fall into place behind the historic first release? I think so.
    Iím not hashing out which album is best, thatís for another day. Iím just reiterating itís historical value as the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timbre4 View Post
    Doubtful that future Roxy Music Surround releases will be anything like this one. If we get a deluxe For Your Pleasure box similar to this it would be very nice as the design and models (along with the band of course) were gorgeous and plentiful. The future is unknown. If Bob Clearmountain actually has (latter day album) mixes stashed away it gets infinitely easier. Nothing guaranteed even then.

    This one was planned to launch years ago. Then plans changed more than once on release timing, format and configuration. It sure seems like somebody close to it was not satisfied with the existing plans, took over and pumped it up. In some ways this was positive (book) but also negative(audio downgrade) where it mattered most. This same person calling the shots was persuaded that the older stereo tracks were a better choice than SWís newly created stereo mixes. Trust in old friends perhaps, didnít like the new mixes (!) or something along those lines.

    If we get any further Roxy Music Surround releases, I suspect the lessons learned from this one should inform the creative process. Surely the other albums fall into place behind the historic first release? I think so.
    Iím not hashing out which album is best, thatís for another day. Iím just reiterating itís historical value as the first.

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    It's such a shame that such a prominent band had such a long history in getting this boxset to fruition and I did advise those who wanted an alternative to purchase the Japanese limited edition SHM~SACD ROXY MUSIC remasters [now being sold as PROXY items from CDJapan which add a ridiculous premium]. And to be perfectly honest, I could NOT imagine Avalon which really does sound spectacular as a LOSSLESS multichannel SACD to be downgraded to a LOSSY DTS 5.1.

    Sounds like way too many hands in this pot and as I would've gladly purchased a stand alone BD~A of this album.....that doesn't REMOTELY seem to be the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4-earredwonder View Post
    It's such a shame that such a prominent band had such a long history in getting this boxset to fruition and I did advise those who wanted an alternative to purchase the Japanese limited edition SHM~SACD remasters [now being sold as PROXY items from CDJapan which add a ridiculous premium]. And to be perfectly honest, I could NOT imagine Avalon which really does sound spectacular as a LOSSLESS multichannel SACD to be downgraded to a LOSSY DTS 5.1.

    Sounds like way too many hands in this pot and as I would've gladly purchased a stand alone BD~A of this album.....that doesn't REMOTELY seem to be the case.
    If the box had been delivered on time, they could have honored the original configuration, DVD-Audio. They could all be issued as DTS 9624; very possible if we get anymore.

    Are those SHM~SACDs for real or 16/44 shams like the UK albums? Jobson told me (2015) that nothing released was ever above 16/44 until his future box set corrected this.


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    Interesting that the CD of the original album is still flagged as HDCD (the other discs are standard CDs) - must be a left-over from the previous mastering.

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    I received my box from importcds at the $66 price and was able to cancel the amazon.ca order the day before it shipped. After all these years of waiting, I have to wait some more as Iím in the middle of moving and my gear is packed up. One day I will actually get to hear this!

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    I've just had a phone call from DHL, got stung £27 for import tax & handling fees , so it'll have cost me £112 , but going by people's comments it'll be worth it!

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    No e-mail from amazon.ca yet, but it looks like they don't add UK tax as amazon.com in the US often does. So I now expect to pay 20% VAT on £85 (£70+£15 P&P) = £17 + around £12.50 tax gathering fee to the courier , so I reckon that will be £114.50, but still £15.49 cheaper than amazon.co.uk! We have to pay VAT on the total invoice cost so on P&P and any insurance (and if it is above £135 there is additional duty starting at 2.5% which you also pay VAT on, so tax on tax)
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    Quote Originally Posted by timbre4 View Post
    If the box had been delivered on time, they could have honored the original configuration, DVD-Audio. They could all be issued as DTS 9624; very possible if we get anymore.

    Are those SHM~SACDs for real or 16/44 shams like the UK albums? Jobson told me (2015) that nothing released was ever above 16/44 until his future box set corrected this.


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    The Universal Japanese SHM~SACDs were DSD mastered from the original UK analogue masters http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UIG...5f5a82e888a921

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4-earredwonder View Post
    The Universal Japanese SHM~SACDs were DSD mastered from the original UK analogue masters http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UIG...5f5a82e888a921
    Fine but Where does it list the resolution?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanS View Post
    I've just had a phone call from DHL, got stung £27 for import tax & handling fees , so it'll have cost me £112 , but going by people's comments it'll be worth it!
    Fear not Duncan the set is top shelf stuff and the SW mix is fantastic you will not be disappointed

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    Quote Originally Posted by timbre4 View Post
    Fine but Where does it list the resolution?
    There is only one resolution for DSD on SACD: 1-bit/2.8224MHz, also known as single-rate (1x) or 64fs (64 times full-scale as in 44.1kHz). It is possible that the masters were captured at a higher DSD resolution, but there are no lower DSD resolutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JediJoker View Post
    There is only one resolution for DSD on SACD: 1-bit/2.8224MHz, also known as single-rate (1x) or 64fs (64 times full-scale as in 44.1kHz). It is possible that the masters were captured at a higher DSD resolution, but there are no lower DSD resolutions.
    Yes thank you, that makes it very simple. Yet I remain skeptical as to the end product. Does anyone actually own any of these discs?


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    Snooooooooooood got me box suuuuuuuuuuuuuper quick like what in one day DHL Express and Momma Snood had to sign.......Snood did not pay for overnight or fast shipping

    Only thing was - was shipped in big over sized box with no inner box just a few bubble packs - luckily no damage at all..........but if it would have been normal shipping, me thinks there would have been a lot of banging around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timbre4 View Post
    Yes thank you, that makes it very simple. Yet I remain skeptical as to the end product. Does anyone actually own any of these discs?


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    My box set arrived this afternoon , I haven't listened yet, but one thing surprised me - that the 5.1 album mix is only mentioned as a footnote for the DVD with the videos

    The book is heavy, but I'll listen to the album way more times than I read it!
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    I played the DVD today, liked it, a really interesting mix suits Roxy Music. I have a problem with the disc, does anyone else?

    On my Oppo 203, the Paris tracks play all Ok, as does the 5.1 DTS mix (haven't tried the 5.1 DD) but with the BBC videos on Full House version of Ladytron it gets to about 3:40 sticks for while, jumps to 4:30, then goes back to the Title page. I can't see a problem anywhere on the disc. Anybody else found that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanS View Post
    I played the DVD today, liked it, a really interesting mix suits Roxy Music. I have a problem with the disc, does anyone else?

    On my Oppo 203, the Paris tracks play all Ok, as does the 5.1 DTS mix (haven't tried the 5.1 DD) but with the BBC videos on Full House version of Ladytron it gets to about 3:40 sticks for while, jumps to 4:30, then goes back to the Title page. I can't see a problem anywhere on the disc. Anybody else found that?
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    Finally got my hands on the DVD and can't wait to listen to the 5.1 tonite. I'll be back with a review soon.

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    RIGHT NOW the Roxy set is $79.45 on amazon US HERE

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    already sold out - Must be the right price point.
    I found my right price point - thanks to Clint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaypfunk View Post
    Finally got my hands on the DVD and can't wait to listen to the 5.1 tonite. I'll be back with a review soon.
    Ok, so what did you think?

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