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"Hey David:Wow! The Cream "Wheels of Fire," as you know was our first attempt at 24K.I still love that album and the packaging. I am sorry to see the 24K go aswell. We're talking about multi-channel now, but no decision as yet. Thanks for the support and interest.Marshall "

Well at least they are talking about it.
 
"Hey David:Wow! The Cream "Wheels of Fire," as you know was our first attempt at 24K.I still love that album and the packaging. I am sorry to see the 24K go aswell. We're talking about multi-channel now, but no decision as yet. Thanks for the support and interest.Marshall "

Well at least they are talking about it.

Is that right? Wow, quite a switch for Marshall. I asked him about Multichannel SACD years ago and he was not interested at all back then. We'll see.
 
"That would be something. It really would be something. That would be something" - Paul McCartney
 
Wow - Is hell about to freeze over???

If it does, I might get around to buying a buying a AF SACD.... :yikes
 
I'll believe it when I hear it, 'course and of course, you have live and studio stuff of varying quality and tracks. This is just too much to hope for.

Although I'm not a CD fan, there are some 'keepers' out there and one of them is the DCC WHEELS, and not just because of the fine sound (for what it is) and packaging, but for the bonus tracks that were apparently dropped from the 2nd press. Just a great package all around, expensive at the time but I imagine much more so now.

ED :)
 
...not to say that SH had already found the quad master for something (GFR, CCR) so he already knows what to look for, just in case.
The AF release of We're an American Band shred any other digital release done before.
Let's see what happens!
 
I'd buy anything especially Hissing Of Summer Lawns.

I'd be happy with the original Quad. I would have thought that all the original CD-4 releases should have a full 4 channel master tape somewhere so would be good to go. Assuming someone hasn't wiped them, chucked them out, or they've deteriorated too far. (If only the 4 channel masters for the Sony/Columbia SQ releases could be found, or the QS, the number of albums available to sell would be great!)
 
Hmm, maybe in that case then, it might not be a bad idea to contact them about possibly releasing the 4 unreleased classic Elton John 5.1 mixes on SACD. After all, they already did a Gold CD for "Rock of the Westies". Why not at least try releasing one of the 4 (hopefully "Don't Shoot Me") to test the water? :)
 
Hmm, maybe in that case then, it might not be a bad idea to contact them about possibly releasing the 4 unreleased classic Elton John 5.1 mixes on SACD. After all, they already did a Gold CD for "Rock of the Westies". Why not at least try releasing one of the 4 (hopefully "Don't Shoot Me") to test the water? :)

Never hurts to ask. I've certainly suggested to a couple of reissue labels that they consider those unreleased Elton 5.1's.
 
I'd like to see them start with that Scorpions EMI Classical release. Moments Of Glory. That would be a hot seller.
 
I'd like to see them start with that Scorpions EMI Classical release. Moments Of Glory. That would be a hot seller.

There's an idea! I'm sure Marshall must know the EMI licensing folks.
I sent him a copy of the Shocker Log earlier today so he has a handle on the in-demand SACD and DVD-A Surround titles these days.
 
Duncan,
the stuff from CBS is available in digital format. Unless we had a flying pig invasion and Sony is going to release them on blue ray, Someone could offer enough cash, and they would let you market them thru special markets. Would just need to be above what they think they could get from marketing them. That is a fluid number depending upon the sun and wind and moon I bet, for many reasons. Ya also gotta give a first run # they will agree to. And pay them for each disc, sold or not.. For the DTS CDs, All we did is ask which titles and they had the quad masters on the digital format at that time, in a few weeks, in our hands. That was 1996. Sony did not get it all correct, but after all they are only in the biz of selling that product. What would you expect, perfection with a request as huge as 25 titles? :mad:@: Big corp, go to the trade shows, find someone ya can get to know in special markets. Make them your buddy and have some cash to spend. Then they have to get sold, another step along the way. Not easy to do, and this is a more diverse market than even that long ago. Strange Days Indeed. These will most likely never see another shot of public adoration. Maybe some reruns from sacds. Lot less work than redoing the quad titles.


I'd buy anything especially Hissing Of Summer Lawns.

I'd be happy with the original Quad. I would have thought that all the original CD-4 releases should have a full 4 channel master tape somewhere so would be good to go. Assuming someone hasn't wiped them, chucked them out, or they've deteriorated too far. (If only the 4 channel masters for the Sony/Columbia SQ releases could be found, or the QS, the number of albums available to sell would be great!)
 
As Tad said, the only key to any door in the record companies is money.

Right - it is a business and the desire is to maximize profits.

With that in mind, the reissue specialist companies (Acoustic Sounds/Analogue Productions, Mobile Fidelity and Audio Fidelity) are really the experts here working with the record labels and their Special Markets licensing operations. If anyone can get reissues to happen it would be one of these companies.

An example, Chad Kassem of Acoustic Sounds talks about licensing master tapes and insisting on analog masters if the labels want his licensing payments.
That's what it takes to be successful in this arena.
 
Brian,
The market is so splintered, I bet the big boys would let them in, the problem these days is selling this stuff, I would think it is more of a challenge than the DTS era. People still bought hard copy titles and the demographic for the quad titles was younger than now. The market needs to be built on some newer music, much as I can not stand the Bare Naked Ladies era of music, the titles should be geared to 40 somethings. And priced right. I did not care for the price we stuck on DTS titles when we started, way too much, once you break the 19 dollar barrier, it becomes an economic decision, that may well win over enthusiasm.

Right - it is a business and the desire is to maximize profits.

With that in mind, the reissue specialist companies (Acoustic Sounds/Analogue Productions, Mobile Fidelity and Audio Fidelity) are really the experts here working with the record labels and their Special Markets licensing operations. If anyone can get reissues to happen it would be one of these companies.

An example, Chad Kassem of Acoustic Sounds talks about licensing master tapes and insisting on analog masters if the labels want his licensing payments.
That's what it takes to be successful in this arena.
 
Never hurts to ask. I've certainly suggested to a couple of reissue labels that they consider those unreleased Elton 5.1's.

Ok, I've contacted AF about these unreleased 5.1 mixes, and we'll see what they say! I've already contacted Acoustic Sounds about these a few years ago to no avail…
But as always...https://www.facebook.com/SurroundEltonJohn ;)

Also, I wonder if/when Mobile Fidelity will start doing surround on their SACDs. That option is also long overdue...
 
Ok, I've contacted AF about these unreleased 5.1 mixes, and we'll see what they say! I've already contacted Acoustic Sounds about these a few years ago to no avail…
But as always...https://www.facebook.com/SurroundEltonJohn ;)

Also, I wonder if/when Mobile Fidelity will start doing surround on their SACDs. That option is also long overdue...

You mean re-start issuing surround - they have done it: :eek:
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Brian,
The market is so splintered, I bet the big boys would let them in, the problem these days is selling this stuff, I would think it is more of a challenge than the DTS era. People still bought hard copy titles and the demographic for the quad titles was younger than now. The market needs to be built on some newer music, much as I can not stand the Bare Naked Ladies era of music, the titles should be geared to 40 somethings. And priced right. I did not care for the price we stuck on DTS titles when we started, way too much, once you break the 19 dollar barrier, it becomes an economic decision, that may well win over enthusiasm.

True on many fronts.

The market is changing. Reminds me of the book "The Long Tail" where technology changes the game in terms of someone like Amazon being able to stock virtually everything. And with downloads, once a copy is on a server, there really isn't any inventory to manage at all vs. making physical discs where you have warehousing costs, estimating how many discs to make, etc.

On licensing, you do have to look at how much the advance to the record label and the artist is vs. how much you can bring in with sales of the product. I remember hearing about one potential reissue that didn't happen because the artist was looking for an advance that was 5x what the label could afford in terms of projected sales. As the type of markets change and the size of some markets shrink, that should generate changes in thinking about what does and does not make sense financially.

In summary, interesting times ahead for the music industry.
 
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