Harman Kardon T35C turntable mods

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I got a Harman Kardon T35C turntable a while back after seeing HK turntables on Ebay and reading about them. IIRC, it wasn't much over $200 from Ebay. The T35C has low rumble, wow and flutter and after I tried playing a record on my unmodified T35C, I noticed a steadiness in the sound which was a definite improvement over some other turntables I was using. As a comparison, when comparing a Foxtex model 80 1/4 inch reel to reel 8 track to my Akai CR80DSS, I noticed that after cleaning the Fostex and using rubber bands on the tape guides, the Fostex seemed to produce a very steady and smooth sound when I tried playing the TUBES tape, compared to using the Akai CR80DSS (must be the low wow and flutter of the Fostex).
See https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?16203-Reel-to-reel-Frankenquad!

Recently, I tried taking the original cable off of the T35C and put a brass plate on the back of the turntable having two gold plated phono jacks (pictures attached). The jacks are soldered to two pieces of RG187A/U cable which I soldered to terminals inside the turntable that connect to the wires coming from the tonearm. The original tonearm wires were not replaced. I also put in a new ground wire.
see https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?15988-Silver-tonearm-wire
I connected the phono jacks to a TC-750 preamp using two half foot pieces of RG187A/U cable with gold plated phono plugs at each end (with a Fisher 500C tubed stereo power amp, Masco inspired stereo dynamic range expander and OFC cables after the preamp and expander and 10 gauge OFC speaker cables) and played some stereo records using an Audio Technica cartridge and could hear a big improvement in the sound, ie. clearer with more dynamic range. Later, I tried using a Pickering XV-15 cartridge with a couple different styli and the sound seemed to be less distorted than the Audio Technica cartridge (the AT sounded like it produced a fuzz or buzz effect on the peaks). I used a gauge to align the XV-15, but not the Audio Technica. Also, the Audio Technica stylus might be dirty (I didn't use liquid cleaner, only a dry brush) and/or may be wearing out. Later, I tried using a Pickering XUV/4500Q which I got recently (the seller says its barely used) and one Sunday afternoon listened to a lot of records while being amazed at the sound (very clear and detailed yet musical and warm). :banana: Sounds like they used some backward tape effects on the 12 string Rick on Eight Miles High by the Byrds, which I never really noticed before. I also found that a lot of styli that fit and work with the XV-15 will fit into the XUV/4500Q but don't seem to work right, ie. sound level is very low. Only the 4500Q works right with it. Soon I'm going to try it with the Fosgate Tate for SQ and Sansui QC-04 for CD-4.
The Fisher X-101 I've been using with the rear speakers makes some noise in one channel, so I might have to fix that soon. I have some other amps I could use for the rear speakers, too.

Masco circuit (fig. 5) http://antiquesci.50webs.com/CompExp.htm



http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ternal-vibration-turntable-four-spring-loaded

http://www.vinylengine.com/library/harman-kardon.shtml
 

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Yesterday, I tried hooking up my Sansui QC-04 to the HK turntable and tried out some test CD-4 records and found I was able to get good separation, but the left front and back channels were reversed. This happened with both channels of a Grado F-1+ cartridge I have, so I reversed the cables with that cartridge to get it to work right. I also reversed the left front and back cables with the XUV cartridge to get the signals to go to the correct speakers. I read somewhere that this can happen if the magnetic fields are reversed. I played a number of CD-4 LPs, ie. Jefferson Airplane's Volunteers, Black Sabbath Paranoid, Zappa's Over-Nite Sensation, etc. Most of the time there was no whine/whistle sound from carrier cross talk, but when I heard it, it was very low and a lot better than the other two CD-4 cartridges I have (Grado F-1+ and Ed Saunders). I put a switch in the QC-04 so I can switch off the baseband preamp and hear just whats on the carrier (discussed earlier). The sound from the carrier was a lot less distorted when compared to the other two cartridges. Some pictures attached show the XUV on the T35C and a screen shield I made for the QC-04. I bought the QC-04 from Etco for $8.50 after the quad market went down hill. It came without most of the housing, but I was able to get it to work using the schematic that came with it. I also tried putting some Polipods under the turntable feet and was able to walk around without the record skipping. The sound quality from the QC-04 wasn't as good as the stereo TC-750 preamp. I also used a DBX 2BX dynamic range expander with the front channels and an RG Pro-16 dynamic range expander with the rear channels.
https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?13420-Dynamic-range-expanders



Sansui QC-04 pictures

http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/QC04.html

http://www.surrounddiscography.com/quaddisc/CD4-Demodulators/SANSUI QC-04 CD-4 DEMODULATOR 2_2.JPG

http://www.surrounddiscography.com/quaddisc/CD4-Demodulators/SANSUI QC-04 CD-4 DEMODULATOR 3_2.JPG

http://www.surrounddiscography.com/quaddisc/CD4-Demodulators/SANSUI QC-04 CD-4 DEMODULATOR 1_2.JPG



Polipods
http://www.3345rpm.gr/en/sound-accessories/milty-polipods-isolation-feet-hifi-set.asp
 

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I tried replacing a lot of the cable in the QC-04 with some RG187A/U cable. There seems to be some improvement in the sound. The QC-04 worked OK with the original cable and I'd only recommend an upgrade like this if you want to optimize sound as much as possible. The first picture shows the QC-04 with the original cable with the front bypass switch removed and the second picture shows the QC-04 with the RG187A/U cable and switch back in.
 

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