More ELP remasters/releases/reissues - Deja Vu All Over Again!

Ranasakawa said:

Sadly no 5.1 for Pictures @ an exhibition !

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fluid said:

I love Elp, back in the early 70's as aprog rock band nobody could touch them, I don't give a fuck about the charge of being, over the top.
Problem is there is not much stuff to left to do, it will be a case of rehashing more of the same, but I would dearly love a redo of WBMFTTSTNE, also there must be live recordings of that tour, if Yes can dig them up why can't ELP

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kap'n krunch said:

The problem and biggest obstacle has a name: GREG LAKE.....
SW couldn't work with him after the S/T and Tarkus...Jakko then took over for Trilogy and then gave up when Greg Lake futzed with his mix (3rd movement which he made into a bass "solo")....

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salsdali said:

I've always considered my 2000 DVD-A of BSS as my goto reference disc.

I say leave that one alone, don't fix it if it ain't broke.

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kap'n krunch said:

The problem and biggest obstacle has a name: GREG LAKE.....
SW couldn't work with him after the S/T and Tarkus...Jakko then took over for Trilogy and then gave up when Greg Lake futzed with his mix (3rd movement which he made into a bass "solo")....

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Doctor Flang said:

Errr...i know you meant Brain Salad Surgery, but Jakko did Trilogy after that, so he did work with ELP after that. Anyway, where did you heard that story?

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rtbluray said:

False. AFAIK, even though "Brain Salad Surgery" was released first, Jakko remixed "Trilogy" sometime in the first half of 2013, then he moved onto "Brain Salad Surgery" in the middle of 2013.

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kayley10 said:

The thing about ELP's reissues is that it's not merely a lack of source material, it's a lack of organization.
Shall I give you an example? The Manticore Special. The BBC have the original footage in 16mm and rebroadcast it in 2009. Excerpts from this transfer were used in Beyond The Beginning. When they included it in the BSS deluxe edition, it was the old dodgy video transfer from the 90s with all the greens and blues. URGH!
Another example is the wealth of material they found on the BSS mutltiracks. There is a complete list here:
http://www.brain-salad-surgery.de/40th_anniversary_super_deluxe_edition.html
They could have filled an entire CD with the jams alone. There was also a lot of alternate Trilogy material. And yet all we got was the 2007 bonus tracks plus instrumental mixes of KE93rdI and BSS the song on the Brain Salad Surgery reissue and an alternate moog solo on From The Beginning on Trilogy. BOLLOCKS!

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pklshpu said:

I couldn't agree with you more. For what I read in other posts, Greg Lake and Carl Palmer might be a problem for future releases and future engineers. I also got a strong feeling ELP management sucks since always. They look like amateurs to me. Apparently, if they can cut corners and not move their butts, they will. I can't believe the incapacity they have to find rare and important material. I just cannot believe they couldn't search (and find) the complete Cal Jam 74 video -- look at Deep Purple, who released their Cal Jam show in early 2000s! The fan base is also so sad about years of being "beaten" by the itinerant catalog and (most of the time) presentation of irrelevant unreleased material that, apparently, they can't join forces and have a strong community like "genesis movement" etc. Really sad.

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LuvMyQuad said:

Not that this is the same thing as a true 5.1 release, but for those that are unaware, there does exist an early Dolby pro logic encoded version of "Pictures at an Exhibition" that was included on the "In the Hot Seat" CD.

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ssully said:

That was a new studio recording originally included on the 1993 'Return to the Manticore' box set.

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