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    Default DVD-A coming to Sony universal player. Yes, DVD-Audio!!

    Sony is set to release a "premium" Blu-ray player, the UHP-H1, that not only feature SACD playback, but also DVD-Audio. Check out that logo on the left....


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    Wow!! Now there is a complete 180. Actually, I think this is great news if it materializes....
    That is...if they sell it for less than an Oppo. Which if they don't...then...who cares?

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    Yeah, the mock-up of the back clearly show DVD-A/V. But if you click on specifications, they don't list that feature. So, seems to me it's a tossup what we'll end up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOS View Post
    Yeah, the mock-up of the back clearly show DVD-A/V. But if you click on specifications, they don't list that feature. So, seems to me it's a tossup what we'll end up with.
    And with NO detachable power cord, a deal breaker for me.

    And isn't it kind of late in the game for SONY to be releasing a BD Universal player with the newer TRUE 4K models around the horizon....like, March 2016!

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    Great that is has analog stereo outputs.

    Bummer that it has not analog outputs for mch. What DAC would be adequate for getting them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOS View Post
    Yeah, the mock-up of the back clearly show DVD-A/V. But if you click on specifications, they don't list that feature. So, seems to me it's a tossup what we'll end up with.
    It has DVD audio capability...HERE

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4-earredwonder View Post
    And with NO detachable power cord, a deal breaker for me.

    And isn't it kind of late in the game for SONY to be releasing a BD Universal player with the newer TRUE 4K models around the horizon....like, March 2016!
    Because Sony has opted to NOT release a 4k blu ray player..so this is their response...for me there is no way I would trade a Sony for an Oppo...regardless of features...the build quality of Oppo is much better than a Sony...of course I'm biased against Sony...can't stand the company...the customer service at Oppo is light years better than Sony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood View Post
    Because Sony has opted to NOT release a 4k blu ray player..so this is their response...for me there is no way I would trade a Sony for an Oppo...regardless of features...the build quality of Oppo is much better than a Sony...of course I'm biased against Sony...can't stand the company...the customer service at Oppo is light years better than Sony.
    I guess I didn't realize Sony had customer service...


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    Quote Originally Posted by proufo View Post
    Great that is has analog stereo outputs.

    Bummer that it has not analog outputs for mch. What DAC would be adequate for getting them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by proufo View Post
    Great that is has analog stereo outputs.

    Bummer that it has not analog outputs for mch. What DAC would be adequate for getting them?
    Any prepro with an HDMI input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundboy View Post
    Sony is set to release a "premium" Blu-ray player, the UHP-H1, that not only feature SACD playback, but also DVD-Audio. Check out that logo on the left....

    Would they charge extra for that serial number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post
    Any prepro with an HDMI input.
    Thanks, Kal.

    As the options are mostly getting x-hand equipment at ebay, it is quite difficult to have a analog-based system.
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    This is wonderful. I hope that DVD-Audio logo isn't a mistake. More competition in universal transports may drive down prices. A $299 list price Sony will be $149 in a year. I have been please with my four year old BDP-S380 Blu-ray/SACD transport but I would like to open up a HDMI input on my receiver for another streaming device by putting my Pioneer DV48-av DVD-Audio player out to pasture.

    I know that an auxiliary HDMI switcher and smart remote could fix this but that would confuse the family that uses the system to "watch TV."

    Cheers, Michael

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    No 4K video native decoding? Is this a joke???

    This would be a very interesting product if released 2 or 3 years ago.

    One will still need to buy a 4K UltraHD BluRay player in a few months, so why pay for two and have two BluRay players connected to one's hi fi system???
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    It's a great joke for the folks who want to wait for UHD to take hold says the guy who is disappointed that expanded color range was included in HDMI 1.3 but never exploited.

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    Sorry for the cross post, but does this mean that Panasonic MAY introduce a Blu-ray spinner with DVD-Audio and SACD compatibility?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood View Post
    Because Sony has opted to NOT release a 4k blu ray player..so this is their response...for me there is no way I would trade a Sony for an Oppo...regardless of features...the build quality of Oppo is much better than a Sony...of course I'm biased against Sony...can't stand the company...the customer service at Oppo is light years better than Sony.
    You got that right, Clint. We used to have battles royale over at the old SA~CD.net about the Sony ES5400 SACD player versus the current Oppos and since I have both, and MUCH preferred the OPPO BDP~105 to the supposed "flagship" Sony 5400, the war or words would fly...and this, despite the fact that everyone over there complained about SONY's horrible customer service versus OPPO's supremely delightful customer service department.

    Although I'm not 4K ready, I still look forward to OPPO's 4K hardware and wouldn't even consider adding any SONY products to my arsenal at this late stage of the game!

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    That is one sorry-looking "premium" player! We older gents remember when the Sony ES series released some awesome gear. Notably that early carousel multichannel SACD player; if I remember correctly, even a couple of the audiophile mags liked its CD playing quality, SACD notwithstanding. I still have it and love it! I used to have it partnered with a Denon carousel for DVD-A, but I have been through four of those now and given up, because apparently they were Denon branded but built by Fisher Price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdm08033 View Post
    Sorry for the cross post, but does this mean that Panasonic MAY introduce a Blu-ray spinner with DVD-Audio and SACD compatibility?
    not so far...Panasonic will release a 4k blu ray player..and some audio extras...but..in truly ironic style they are more streaming upgrades than disc based ones for audio...and it appears that units won't be available in the US for quite some time...probably in 2017...check this out..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorO View Post
    That is one sorry-looking "premium" player! We older gents remember when the Sony ES series released some awesome gear. Notably that early carousel multichannel SACD player; if I remember correctly, even a couple of the audiophile mags liked its CD playing quality, SACD notwithstanding. I still have it and love it! I used to have it partnered with a Denon carousel for DVD-A, but I have been through four of those now and given up, because apparently they were Denon branded but built by Fisher Price.
    I had a Kenwood DVD-A spinner, and still have the Sony ES SACD spinner. Those things were monsters. I haven't used the Sony in years, but it still sits in my rack. Looks damn fine, being the ES model. Back when ES meant something.

    As for this player, well like others have said, this would have rocked in 2002. Me, I'll never give up my Oppo, but it makes me lament: If every SACD player played DVD-A, and every DVD-A player played SACD back in 2000, imagine how far surround sound would have come!

    Maybe the foolish DualDisc, MVI disc, Super Saturated DVD-V, and other failed attempts to replace DVD-A and SACD would have never appeared, and we'd still have an active, major label output of surround music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisMoore Jr. View Post
    No 4K video native decoding? Is this a joke???

    This would be a very interesting product if released 2 or 3 years ago.

    One will still need to buy a 4K UltraHD BluRay player in a few months, so why pay for two and have two BluRay players connected to one's hi fi system???
    They are going to release a 4k player later this year...check this out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood View Post
    They are going to release a 4k player later this year...check this out
    From what I have read, UHD players should hit the market in March, so Sony's 1080P player is a day late and a dollar short.

    I am a HUGE fan of 4K. Most films are shot in 4K and if you equated traditional film to digital you'd get roughly 4000ish x 2000ish.

    So for the first time in human existence we get to purchase home movies that are native resolution. That is pretty incredible to a guy like me who grew up with 230i TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisMoore Jr. View Post
    From what I have read, UHD players should hit the market in March, so Sony's 1080P player is a day late and a dollar short.

    I am a HUGE fan of 4K. Most films are shot in 4K and if you equated traditional film to digital you'd get roughly 4000ish x 2000ish.

    So for the first time in human existence we get to purchase home movies that are native resolution. That is pretty incredible to a guy like me who grew up with 230i TV.
    You can buy one to these here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood View Post
    You can buy one to these here
    The only problem for early 4K adopters is the format's inability to do 4K 3D. If one remembers, the early 2K BD players also failed to include 3D and adopted it in later models necessitating early adopters to purchase newer units. And we all know how amazing 4K 3D would look (The Martian, in particular, received high scores for its 3D 2K presentation). http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/26846/themartian3d.html

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    The only problem for early 4K adopters is the format's inability to do 4K 3D. If one remembers, the early 2K BD players also failed to include 3D and adopted it in later models necessitating early adopters to purchase newer units. And we all know how amazing 4K 3D would look (The Martian, in particular, received high scores for its 3D 2K presentation). http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/26846/themartian3d.html
    I came from the video world and I was an early adopter of 3D and I have to admit it's nothing more than a novelty...and as excited as TV companies are about 4k..it's not going to be anything but a niche product in the US...sort of like blu ray became...you aren't going to have the ability to turn on your mainstream channels and see a 4k broadcast...there are just too many logistical problems in the US for it to resemble anything close to widely distributed 4k over the "airwaves"like your ABC..NBC..CBS..and Fox networks...the major networks won't be able to or willing to
    provide this...of course if you listen to the new generation of adults... a lot of them don't even own TV's...they stream everything on devices...by 2020 8k will be a reality in Japan...they have already tested it...of course with the size of Japan it's easily adopted..

    The sad part is that the TV makers are excited because they can sell their "average" tvs with denser pixels and get away with it because the source(4k)will bail them out...as a Panasonic Plasma owner(I have 4 of them)..the only thing that interests me is OLED in the future...if they can improve their motion problems these could represent some real improvement in a display...I happen to be in HH Gregg today and was watching a 65in 4k OLED(LG)on a carefully prepared "loop" of stationary 4k images....I'd love to see some action shots where rapid motion is involved to see how much they have improved the picture..

    Another problem with 3D is you need a very large screen size..one of my TVs is 65inch that I've watched 3D on and it's not big enough to really take advantage of 3D...even with the compression algorithms that are being used it's still not viable for me with my internet service..the internet infrastructure in the US is poor(at best)compared to other countries..Directv will probably be one of the sources for 4k in the US...they can do more than cable systems...but the cost vs the number of subscribers will probably be like 3D was for them...they had a dedicated channel for 3D and didn't get the subscribers they needed...it's ironic that a disc based medium(4k blu ray) might be the savior for an advanced technology...but I suspect the unavailabililty of "real" 4k content will continue to hurt the technology...

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