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    here to trade or purchase. as seen on ebay too.
    I'm interested in quadraphonic reels 7 inch reels, 4 channel digital convertible to .wav files, 4 channel cassette tapes recorded on Tascam or Yamaha recorders for example, DAW project files in ACIDPro or similar programs.

    I would like some Forum members to review/critique my work too.

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    What are those pictured??
    fuck tRUMP

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    that's my current inventory of ENOCH THE RAD quadraphonic tapes...

    here's three new ones coming out next year -
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    The Mad parody cracks me up.

    But a couple of questions if you don't mind....

    Do you record to DAW and mix down to four channels, then run off copies on a Q4, and what model of Q4?

    What kind of music? Is it songs, or more like Tangerine Dream soundscapes? A rock band, sample based, ambient, world music, noise, synth pop, jazz, or what?

    Do you have a sample you could post, maybe a FLAC etc.?

    I guess that's three or four questions.

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    I have same curiosity!!


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    Review? Critique? Sure...And how do you propose we do that? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bushmaster View Post
    Review? Critique? Sure...And how do you propose we do that? Just curious.
    I propose it would come up like any other "Listening to..." or "Surround Sound releases In Review..." kind of forum post.

    It occurred to me that it would be necessary for you to own a working quadraphonic tape deck.
    If you do please message me and I will provide a tape. First come first served.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quadsearcher View Post
    The Mad parody cracks me up.

    But a couple of questions if you don't mind....

    Do you record to DAW and mix down to four channels, then run off copies on a Q4, and what model of Q4?

    What kind of music? Is it songs, or more like Tangerine Dream soundscapes? A rock band, sample based, ambient, world music, noise, synth pop, jazz, or what?

    Do you have a sample you could post, maybe a FLAC etc.?

    I guess that's three or four questions.

    -John

    I record on laptop DAW, then distribute the tracks to 4 busses in the DAW. I render 4 mono .wav files. I don't have a multi-channel sound card but I do have a digital recorder connected to the laptop by USB, that will play 4 channels out simultaneously to the Q4 (assuming you mean 4 channel reel to reel here). I'm using an AKAI GX-280D-SS.

    The quad music runs the gamut (no jazz), I can have stereo samples I'll have to post up and link. I do have 7.75gb of recordings available on USB flashdrive or direct download on EBAY. Somebody just got one of my tapes for .99 + postage.
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    Hello there Enoch The Rad,

    Welcome to QQ and Happy New Year!

    Is there a way to download your Quad productions in Hi-Res Surround (Flac, Wav, etc.)?

    Thanks in advance, Adam
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredblue View Post
    Hello there Enoch The Rad,

    Welcome to QQ and Happy New Year!

    Is there a way to download your Quad productions in Hi-Res Surround (Flac, Wav, etc.)?

    Thanks in advance, Adam
    I hadn't thought about that. So you would be able to work with 4 .wav files? For my own understanding, if you have the .wav files how would you accomplish the playback?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlrocker View Post
    I hadn't thought about that. So you would be able to work with 4 .wav files? For my own understanding, if you have the .wav files how would you accomplish the playback?
    yes, MultiCh WAVs are fine (they playback in things like VLC, Kodi, Foobar).. FLACs even better as smaller files and still lossless surround.

    personally I prefer Quad music files as 6-ch FLAC with silent/empty Centre & LFE (channels 3 + 4 in output bus; where 1 = FL, 2 = FR, 3 = C, 4 = LFE, 5 = SL, 6 = SR) otherwise my Mac goes 21st century schizoid with 4-ch WAVs and starts plonking one of the rears in the centre channel..!!
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    I'd probably join the individual wavs in Audiomuxer, then use Foobar for the player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quadsearcher View Post
    I'd probably join the individual wavs in Audiomuxer, then use Foobar for the player.
    Does this playback method maintain the discrete 4 speaker experience? When you say "join" I think "stereo"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredblue View Post
    yes, MultiCh WAVs are fine (they playback in things like VLC, Kodi, Foobar).. FLACs even better as smaller files and still lossless surround.

    personally I prefer Quad music files as 6-ch FLAC with silent/empty Centre & LFE (channels 3 + 4 in output bus; where 1 = FL, 2 = FR, 3 = C, 4 = LFE, 5 = SL, 6 = SR) otherwise my Mac goes 21st century schizoid with 4-ch WAVs and starts plonking one of the rears in the centre channel..!!
    forgive the dumb question but how do you 6 channels FLAC out of your computer to a suitable amplifier? Are you burning a disc, or is it transported by wire, and what port do you use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlrocker View Post
    forgive the dumb question but how do you 6 channels FLAC out of your computer to a suitable amplifier? Are you burning a disc, or is it transported by wire, and what port do you use?
    not dumb Qn at all., I primarily use HDMI out from the computer so I can make use of room correction with surround music.

    I do also sometimes use the MultiCh analog outs of my MOTU FireWire interface which in turn hook up to the MultiCh analog inputs on the receiver but HDMI is easiest, most convenient and enables the aspects of Audyssey setup I do like, speaker size/distance/delay in particular, which I can't do via MultiCh analog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlrocker View Post
    Does this playback method maintain the discrete 4 speaker experience? When you say "join" I think "stereo"...
    Yes, it becomes a Multichannel Wav, that can then be demuxed by a player like Foobar, or, burned to a disc with proper software, etc.

    I have a multichannel sound card on the computer, but also a MOTU like FredB. mentions below which is easier for me. This is typically for listening to demos in the shop/studio. If I was going to play it on the big system I'd convert to FLAC and put it on a disc for the OPPO, which will also demux a multichannel stream.

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    I do have the capability to create different file types like FLAC, quad and 5.1

    available now in discrete 4 channel reels:
    Quad Zilla - guitar rock
    Quad Insanity - variety of rap, rock, and electronica
    Heavy Duty - variety soundscape and guitar rock
    Addicted - variety experimental soundscape and guitar rock
    Acid Quad vol 1-4 - experimental soundscapes w/wo guitar
    Sumo Quad vol 1-2 - hard rock
    Heaven - garage rock/Americana
    Calling All Quads - experimental soundscape
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlrocker View Post
    I do have the capability to create different file types like FLAC, quad and 5.1

    available now in discrete 4 channel reels:
    Quad Zilla - guitar rock
    Quad Insanity - variety of rap, rock, and electronica
    Heavy Duty - variety soundscape and guitar rock
    Addicted - variety experimental soundscape and guitar rock
    Acid Quad vol 1-4 - experimental soundscapes w/wo guitar
    Sumo Quad vol 1-2 - hard rock
    Heaven - garage rock/Americana
    Calling All Quads - experimental soundscape
    In the Flesh - guitar rock/variety
    A couple of these sound interesting, but I have a couple of questions about the reel tapes that are important to reel to reel users.

    Are you using new or used tapes? What brand are you using, or are you using a variety based on the availability of new or used tapes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla View Post
    A couple of these sound interesting, but I have a couple of questions about the reel tapes that are important to reel to reel users.

    Are you using new or used tapes? What brand are you using, or are you using a variety based on the availability of new or used tapes?
    All tapes come from used stock purchased on ebay. Right now I'm using 7" non-branded radio show tapes in white boxes. I have various brands available, if you want a specific brand I may have it in stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlrocker View Post
    All tapes come from used stock purchased on ebay. Right now I'm using 7" non-branded radio show tapes in white boxes. I have various brands available, if you want a specific brand I may have it in stock.
    Thanks for the reply, but if tapes are used there is no way to ensure that the tape brand is the same as the reels they are spooled onto. Some tape formulations do not age well, and they can cause a lot of tape deck problems ... especially if they were stored improperly.

    I will pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla View Post
    Thanks for the reply, but if tapes are used there is no way to ensure that the tape brand is the same as the reels they are spooled onto. Some tape formulations do not age well, and they can cause a lot of tape deck problems ... especially if they were stored improperly.

    I will pass.
    I would like to learn about "tape formulations and tape deck problems".
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlrocker View Post
    I would like to learn about "tape formulations and tape deck problems".
    Google is your friend, but here is a good place to start ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky-shed_syndrome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla View Post
    Google is your friend, but here is a good place to start ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky-shed_syndrome
    Cool, thanks. I have run into that squeel problem on some tapes, I just unload those tapes and move on to the next one. So it looks like Maxell, TDK, and BASF are the best choices then. I do clean and demag as needed.
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    Hi. mlrocker

    I favor Maxell but TDK,BASF are good to go no problems with these tapes, Maxell might be a dearer tape but I think is the best if you want overall quality.

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    Cool, thanks. I have run into that squeel problem on some tapes, I just unload those tapes and move on to the next one. So it looks like Maxell, TDK, and BASF are the best choices then. I do clean and demag as needed.

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    Hi. mlrocker

    I favor Maxell but TDK,BASF are good to go no problems with these tapes, Maxell might be a dearer tape but I think is the best if you want overall quality.
    From henceforth, I will supply only these branded tapes for any of my recordings requested of me in this here QQ !
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