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    The new mix is actually pretty good imho[I know people are gonna tear me a new one over that to them I say bring it on!]

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwkn View Post
    The new mix is actually pretty good imho[I know people are gonna tear me a new one over that to them I say bring it on!]
    Well if I would have known you would like it, I would have gladly sold you my copy! (And I'm sure I'm not the only one on QQ who would have made that offer to get this new CD/Blu-Ray edition of their hands…)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwkn View Post
    The new mix is actually pretty good imho[I know people are gonna tear me a new one over that to them I say bring it on!]
    I too enjoy this new mix. This mix is definitely tamer than the original mix, but it is still a wonderful alternative.

    The dynamic range seems better than the original, and Roy's voice in particular sounds less shrill and is warmer.

    The closest thing I can tell all my friends here at QQ is that this new mix sounds more like a studio mix with less discreteness and definitely less audience noise.

    I can only compare it to the first time I listened the Steven Wilson's remix version of ELP's "Lucky Man" compared to the original 5.1 mix on Brain Salad Surgery. Steven's mix sounds more refined and less adventurous in comparison to the original, but I still very much enjoy both versions.

    I definitely like having both versions!
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    Quote Originally Posted by quattroatl View Post
    I can only compare it to the first time I listened the Steven Wilson's remix version of ELP's Brain Salad Surgery compared to the original 5.1 mix. Steven's mix sounds more refined and less adventurous in comparison to the original, but I still very much enjoy both versions.
    You mean Jakko Jakszyk's 5.1 mix of "Brain Salad Surgery"?
    Steven Wilson never remixed that album...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtbluray View Post
    You mean Jakko Jakszyk's 5.1 mix of "Brain Salad Surgery"?
    Steven Wilson never remixed that album...
    sorry for the brain fart.

    I meant to describe "Lucky Man" only from the the original 5.1 mix in BSS to Wilson's version on his mix of ELP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quattroatl View Post
    sorry for the brain fart.

    I meant to describe "Lucky Man" only from the the original Jakko mix in BSS to Wilson's version on his mix of ELP.
    Sorry, you still don't have it right, but at least I know what you want to say now, and that is:
    I can only compare it to the first time I listened to Steven Wilson's remix version of ELP's Lucky Man compared to the original 5.1 mix. Steven's mix sounds more refined and less adventurous in comparison to the original, but I still very much enjoy both versions.
    [Jakko mixed the 2014 5.1 mix of "Brain Salad Surgery", not the 2000 5.1 mix that had "Lucky Man" as a bonus.]


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    Quote Originally Posted by rtbluray View Post
    Sorry, you still don't have it right, but at least I know what you want to say now, and that is:


    [Jakko mixed the 2014 5.1 mix of "Brain Salad Surgery", not the 2000 5.1 mix that had "Lucky Man" as a bonus.]

    damn! you took the words out of my brain salad surgery .

    My main point is that this new mix is still very good and actually sounds very balanced in comparison to the more adventurous original surround mix.

    The original definitely has wow factor, but the band can sound overwhelming at times in the surround channels.
    This new mix is extremely well-balanced with Roy being the center of attention.

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    This new surround mix is... not really a surround mix. It works fine for watching a concert performance video, but as a stand alone piece of "surround music", it wouldn't be worth the bother of ripping it from the blu-ray. I'll keep mine in my "music video" library, but certainly not in my "surround sound" library.
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    Just watched the PBS version in 5.1; not much different than the original, IMHO
    If you closed your eyes, you'd probably not notice anything major; except the new additions
    Still a great show, but .................................................. ...............................................

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    There's a new professional review of this 30th version on blu-ray.com and he said this is identical to the original:

    "I viewed the entire concert with the Dolby TrueHD 5.1 track and as far as I can tell its basic characteristics are identical to those of the DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 track that was included on the out-of-print release that Image Entertainment produced."

    http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Roy-Or...172550/#Review

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogmort View Post
    There's a new professional review of this 30th version on blu-ray.com and he said this is identical to the original:

    "I viewed the entire concert with the Dolby TrueHD 5.1 track and as far as I can tell its basic characteristics are identical to those of the DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 track that was included on the out-of-print release that Image Entertainment produced."

    http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Roy-Or...172550/#Review
    Seriously, what the f*** is this guy going on about?!
    The 5.1 mixes are NOTHING alike.
    They are as different as the night is from the day.
    I will reiterate, do NOT buy this new 30th anniversary release!
    Stay far away from it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtbluray View Post
    Seriously, what the f*** is this guy going on about?!
    The 5.1 mixes are NOTHING alike.
    They are as different as the night is from the day.
    I will reiterate, do NOT buy this new 30th anniversary release!
    Stay far away from it!
    I'm thinking that he probably didn't actually do any real comparison between the two at all and just thought 'Yeah, that sounds fine' without realizing/remembering how incredibly discrete the original is. You actually being a sound engineer and what you previously posted about the differences between the two versions is what prompted me to point this review out.

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