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    I have not had any problems with burn in on my OLED.

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    OLED is a semi-conductor technology (current flow through an organic material causes light to be emitted) so won't exhibit the image retention problem that could occur with CRT and Plasma (which is very similar technically to the old CRT, i.e. reliant on high energy electrons striking aphosphor). Brightness & colour balance will degrade slowly with time.

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    I had been following this thread when it started, and have just finished getting caught back up (whew!).

    W-a-y back on page one, HDave mentioned "TV scam marts of New Jersey". I'll openly admit I don't know what he means, what that reputation is. Can anybody fill me in?
    I've got a 2010 Samsung 3-D television that works fine, but all the talk about OLED 3-D televisions has got me thinking about picking up one of the few remaining LG 55"
    models (OLED55C6P).

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    Quote Originally Posted by surround.sound.enthusiast View Post
    I had been following this thread when it started, and have just finished getting caught back up (whew!).

    W-a-y back on page one, HDave mentioned "TV scam marts of New Jersey". I'll openly admit I don't know what he means, what that reputation is. Can anybody fill me in?
    I've got a 2010 Samsung 3-D television that works fine, but all the talk about OLED 3-D televisions has got me thinking about picking up one of the few remaining LG 55"
    models (OLED55C6P).

    There are a group of online retailers operating out of NJ offering deals too good to be true along with bait and switch pricing. East Coast tv, Joes AV, Abe's etc. Shop carefully because your looking for the 2016 model of a curved 3D OLED. Check reviews and good luck it may be the only way to get that model. I've seen my model advertised for 4999.00 and bought it for 1795.00 at local ABC Warehouse this spring before the 2017 models arrived.
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    Thanks HDave, time for a little more research - to make sure I'm not only looking at the correct model but correct model year too. I had interpreted the thread as indicating that units made in model year 2017 were the last to be 3-D, not model year 2016. A number of those retailers popped up last night while quickly looking. I might be a little too late to the decision of picking up a curved OLED 3-D television.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surround.sound.enthusiast View Post
    Thanks HDave, time for a little more research - to make sure I'm not only looking at the correct model but correct model year too. I had interpreted the thread as indicating that units made in model year 2017 were the last to be 3-D, not model year 2016. A number of those retailers popped up last night while quickly looking. I might be a little too late to the decision of picking up a curved OLED 3-D television.
    Unfortunately, LG [and ALL other TV manufacturers] ceased the production of 3D sets in 2016.

    Your best bet is to make some phone calls and ascertain whether any of the retailers might have one in stock.

    Just make sure they're brand new and come with some sort of warranty and are not refurbished items.

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    Unfortunately, LG [and ALL other TV manufacturers] ceased the production of 3D sets in 2016.

    Your best bet is to make some phone calls and ascertain whether any of the retailers might have one in stock.

    Just make sure they're brand new and come with some sort of warranty and are not refurbished items.
    I buy lots of refurbished items and I have never had a problem with one. My current 3D TV has been repaired twice, new motherboard and new panel so it is essentially refurbished. I would take a refurbished over new any day, they are cheaper.

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    I just received a pre-release copy of a new 3D release that is actually a 65 year old Black and White film called "Cease Fire", which was filmed in 1953 in Korea at the end of the Korean "Conflict". I have to admit I did not know what to expect, both content wise and 3D effect, but I have to say - this was an amazing film. The 3D is outstanding, far better than many of the modern 3D BluRays that have come out over the years. This 3D grabs you right from the get go, and the opening scenes and text are amazing. It was like some of the title screens were in the middle of my room.

    Anyway, the sound is 3 Channel and very realistic, as is the film, as it uses not actors - just real US soldiers from that arena at the time. There are no sets, no fake arms, no fake ammo, real tanks, real planes - it's all real. (Well, the script is a script, and at the end it gets a bit Rah-Rah USA, but that's cool with me!)

    The restoration of this Paramount release is spectacular. Totally clear, totally realistic, and the 3D does not distract from the film at all - which is what it should do. It enhances it.

    The film begins with an address by a General that has more ribbons than a Christmas Store Display Window, and what he says to the audience rings true to this very day - especially in light of the stuff going on with North Korea recently.

    If you love 3D, and if you like realism, you should really check this one out. It's not something you'll watch a million times, but the first viewing is well worth while, and if you have a grandparent or parent that was around during that time, I bet they would love to see it. I know my Dad would have, but he's no longer here.

    All 3D fans should at least read about this film here: http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/cease-fire

    It is getting a BluRay 3D release this month (11/21). It gets a big thumbs up from me.

    Amazon Tag-Free Link: https://www.amazon.com/Cease-Fire-Ro.../dp/B075DXZS8V
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    Sounds good, thanks for the heads up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seilerbird View Post
    Sounds good, thanks for the heads up.
    Good to have a review from a known individual, I was holding off on ordering until after release for reviews.

    This site is the cheapest I found it for
    https://www.kinolorber.com/product/view/id/4835


    But went with Amazon for 21.99
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    I thought it was time to upgrade my OPPO 105 player to a Multi Region [FINALLY] UHD 205. I've always wanted a multi region player as I've been buying a LOT of steelbook edition 3D/2D BD~Vs from UK's Zavvi and when they have their tremendous sales, a lot of their offerings are region B. For instance, this month, they're offering FIVE LIMITED EDITION Steelbook BD~Vs for 30.

    When I do receive it, I'll let in break in and then offer a mini review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanS View Post
    OLED is a semi-conductor technology (current flow through an organic material causes light to be emitted) so won't exhibit the image retention problem that could occur with CRT and Plasma (which is very similar technically to the old CRT, i.e. reliant on high energy electrons striking aphosphor). Brightness & colour balance will degrade slowly with time.
    Well there are some people who are claiming the new Pixel phones are suffering burn in. I bought one and there is no burn in so far. Now I have an OLED TV and phone.

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    I have been having a bummer of a week. My Onkyo receiver stopped working properly. It will not display my Blu ray player on the TV and the TV does not play through the surround system. I figured out that all the cables were ok and the TV was fine so I ordered a new Sony surround receiver. It is only $300 and it would probably cost that much to get the Onkyo fixed. They want $100 just to look at it. The new one does not arrive until next Monday. Meanwhile no 3D and no surround. It is like going back to the 20th century. I love my system even more now.

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    If you are looking for the worst 3D movie of all time look no further than Comin' At Ya. This is obvious during the opening credits and the opening credits are the best part of the movie. My former worst 3D movie of all time was The Mask. Comin' At Ya makes The Mask look like Citizen Kane. How bad is it? Let me start by saying the worst all time 3D effect is in this movie. The actually take an infant baby girl and shove her pussy into the lens. I could not make this up. The cameras have lenses that cannot focus closer that about 18 inches and every 3D effect is massively out of focus. There is a scene where there is a bat flying around scaring all the whores and a kindergarten class could have produced more realistic fake bats. They try way to hard to jam every thing in the world into the lens. This movie tries way too hard to be a 3D movie. This is not a question of it being so bad it is good, it is a question of it being so bad it is really bad. Everything. The acting, the story, the production, the whole nine yards. No redeeming qualities to this movie. It is such a disaster it should have been delivered in a FEMA truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seilerbird View Post
    If you are looking for the worst 3D movie of all time look no further than Comin' At Ya. This is obvious during the opening credits and the opening credits are the best part of the movie. My former worst 3D movie of all time was The Mask. Comin' At Ya makes The Mask look like Citizen Kane. How bad is it? Let me start by saying the worst all time 3D effect is in this movie. The actually take an infant baby girl and shove her pussy into the lens. I could not make this up. The cameras have lenses that cannot focus closer that about 18 inches and every 3D effect is massively out of focus. There is a scene where there is a bat flying around scaring all the whores and a kindergarten class could have produced more realistic fake bats. They try way to hard to jam every thing in the world into the lens. This movie tries way too hard to be a 3D movie. This is not a question of it being so bad it is good, it is a question of it being so bad it is really bad. Everything. The acting, the story, the production, the whole nine yards. No redeeming qualities to this movie. It is such a disaster it should have been delivered in a FEMA truck.
    Not that I would buy it, but Blu~Ray.com actually gave it a decent review. And ironically, it was SOURCED from a 4K master: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Comin-.../66415/#Review

    For YOUR consideration and reduced to a very NICE PRICE: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Ma...142460/#Review

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4-earredwonder View Post
    Not that I would buy it, but Blu~Ray.com actually gave it a decent review. And ironically, it was SOURCED from a 4K master: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Comin-.../66415/#Review

    For YOUR consideration and reduced to a very NICE PRICE: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Ma...142460/#Review
    There are 30 five star review on Amazon out of 98 reviews. Some people are easily amused. The 4k master is meaningless. There are dust and dirt specks all over the print. And since all the 3D effects are not in focus it really doesn't matter that it was a 4k master.

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    I have been having a bummer of a week. My Onkyo receiver stopped working properly. It will not display my Blu ray player on the TV and the TV does not play through the surround system. I figured out that all the cables were ok and the TV was fine so I ordered a new Sony surround receiver. It is only $300 and it would probably cost that much to get the Onkyo fixed. They want $100 just to look at it. The new one does not arrive until next Monday. Meanwhile no 3D and no surround. It is like going back to the 20th century. I love my system even more now.
    I'm using a 14 year old Onkyo with lovely 100 watts x 6 chans I think, has analog in for surround and no hdmi - but I love the sound and everything about it. I don't use it heavily and it's not showing age in any way. But I wonder if it will just decide to quit on me one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quicksrt View Post
    I'm using a 14 year old Onkyo with lovely 100 watts x 6 chans I think, has analog in for surround and no hdmi - but I love the sound and everything about it. I don't use it heavily and it's not showing age in any way. But I wonder if it will just decide to quit on me one day.
    Having consulted the Oracles your 14 year old analogue Onkyo Receiver will last another........wait a minute.......it's not clear..........what are you telling me mighty Oracle...........Tell Mr Surf City to get a new HDMI Atmos receiver and this way he won't have to fret anymore.

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    when I got my Pioneer SC-97 for atmos it would only do 9.2 channels max in any configuration, meaning the most atmos I could get out of it was 7.1.2, not 7.1.4

    so I kept my old onkyo with multi-channel inputs and routed the front 2 speakers from the Pioneer pre-outs to the onkyo multi-channel inputs and now I can play 7.1.4 atmos and keep the wonderful sound of my old onkyo for the fronts, which I bi-amped btw so there is less load on the pioneer and the onkyo is now actually just using 4 amp channels just for the 2 front speakers so less load on the onkyo than before also

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    I presently have an older Onkyo receiver [6-8 years old] in my bedroom which does support HDMI but will not pass 3D nor 4K. I will probably upgrade with a Dolby Atmos capable one at some point which WILL make life a little easier since I'm outputting one HDMI cable directly to my LG OLED 3D TV and the other into the ONKYO for audio only.

    With the technology changing so rapidly [Atmos, Auro 3D, DTS:X, etc.] it really gets confusing [and expensive]. But I will say that I've never had a problem whatsoever with my present Onkyo or it's predecessor which is currently sitting in mothballs.....but is still, AFAIK, operational.

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    in a sense you can basically use each old receiver you have as a mono-block amp for a new atmos setup

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    Quote Originally Posted by salsdali View Post
    in a sense you can basically use each old receiver you have as a mono-block amp for a new atmos setup
    But none of them will support Auro 3D, Atmos or DTS:X which are specific encodes which rely on exacting decodes. I'd rather not go that route, but thanks for the recommendation anyway. Besides, not enough space to juggle more than one Onkyo.

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    But none of them will support Auro 3D, Atmos or DTS:X which are specific encodes which rely on exacting decodes. I'd rather not go that route, but thanks for the recommendation anyway. Besides, not enough space to juggle more than one Onkyo.
    I was saying if you get a new atmos receiver, like my Pioneer sc-97 for example, you can use both old onkyo receivers as mono-block amps for 2 more speakers because a lot of the newer atmos receivers will only be 9.2 channel and not 11.2 so you need additional amps for the 2 channels that are missing

    I was really just saying that there's no reason to disgard old receivers when upgrading to atmos, they can still be used and will work more efficiently than before

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    Well the problem I was having (no sound from TV to receiver) turned out to be the fault of the Onkyo. I ordered a new Sony STRDH770 receiver. It cost me $299 brand new, which is what I paid for the reconditioned Onkyo two years ago. I set it up and decided to let the automatic surround calibration do it's thing. I have owned about six different surround receivers in my life from as many different manufacturers. This is my first Sony. I was completely blown away. All the other automatic calibrations I have used in the past sucked and I always had to go in and manually set the levels. The Sony was perfect, didn't have to touch a thing. Then I went in and looked at the settings and it got all the speaker distances correct, something no other receiver was able to do. Overall I am totally blown away by this receiver. 145 watts per channel and it sound dynamite, and I am a pick clown. It gets very loud with no distortion. When I bought it two weeks ago I paid $299. Today on Amazon it is $349. I love everything about this unit and I can't believe I only paid $299. My first stereo system cost more than that in 1967 and I had to assemble it myself (Dynaco) and obviously it did not do 10% of what the Sony does. It is a 7.2 and so it is not an Atmos unit but I am not interested in Atmos. It has never impressed me in movie theaters.

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    Cnet is running an article claiming that now is the time to buy LG OLED TVs since the price has never been lower. They say the 55-inch OLED55B7A is $1,500. Wow, I paid $150 more for my 55" and it does 3D. I got a bargain.

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