3D TV Is Dead

edisonbaggins said:

If black on a TV is black because the pixels are turned off, you'd only have one shade of black, rather than all the shades and tones that are possible for shadows.

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There are lots of shades of black, they are called grey. You get it by adding light to black. Not every black is absolute black but when it is absolute black it is absolute black.

edisonbaggins said:

If black on a TV is black because the pixels are turned off, you'd only have one shade of black, rather than all the shades and tones that are possible for shadows.

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Actually, one critique of the LG OLEDs, especially earlier models, is that blacks are perfect, but grays are only so-so. Because the oled works by just turning off pixels that are pure black, it allows for infinite contrast. However, because the same process is not used for grays, which are instead generated by the standard color process for the pixel, it can lead to weak grays.

seilerbird said:

There are lots of shades of black, they are called grey. You get it by adding light to black. Not every black is absolute black but when it is absolute black it is absolute black.

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Well, sure, but I can't imagine that much of what is filmed is "absolute black." Graphics, sure. The artist can choose black for artwork, but for physical objects there is usually some kind of tonal variation going on.
It just boggles my mind that the TV would shut off pixels when detecting "absolute black," even though that may be only for the briefest instant.

More sad news for 3D - Imax is moving away from 3D.

http://www.thewrap.com/imax-moving-away-3d-consumers-shown-strong-preference/

ubertrout said:

Actually, one critique of the LG OLEDs, especially earlier models, is that blacks are perfect, but grays are only so-so. Because the oled works by just turning off pixels that are pure black, it allows for infinite contrast. However, because the same process is not used for grays, which are instead generated by the standard color process for the pixel, it can lead to weak grays.

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Well, you can't prove that by me. IMO, if a TV or projector cannot do inky blacks then everything in the color spectrum is thrown off. Since OLED has been around for approximately 12 years [or so], I should think the 'weak grays' are in the past.

I just ordered this Deep Purple Live at Wacken Concert in 3D: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Deep-Purple-From-the-Setting-Sun-Blu-ray/135777/

It was filmed live utilizing 9 HD Cameras in Wacken Germany in 2013. The set also includes a 2D BD~V version and will be presented in DTS HD~MA 5.1 sound.

4-earredwonder said:

I just ordered this Deep Purple Live at Wacken Concert in 3D: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Deep-Purple-From-the-Setting-Sun-Blu-ray/135777/

It was filmed live utilizing 9 HD Cameras in Wacken Germany in 2013. The set also includes a 2D BD~V version and will be presented in DTS HD~MA 5.1 sound.

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Nice! Let us know what songs are on it.

Perpendicular said:

Nice! Let us know what songs are on it.

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Here's some more info regarding Deep Purple: Live at Wacken, including setlist:

http://hdmusic.pw/deep-purple-from-the-setting-sun-in-wacken-2013-blu-ray-2d3d-1080p-avc-dts-hd-5-1/

4-earredwonder said:

I just ordered this Deep Purple Live at Wacken Concert in 3D: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Deep-Purple-From-the-Setting-Sun-Blu-ray/135777/

It was filmed live utilizing 9 HD Cameras in Wacken Germany in 2013. The set also includes a 2D BD~V version and will be presented in DTS HD~MA 5.1 sound.

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Thanks for the heads up, I just ordered it.

Very mean of them not to show the new Blade Runner movie in 3D. The Melbourne IMAX Cinema show all available 3D films on their playlist in 3D only. If anything the price differential is putting people off in this country . and those poor treasures that cannot bare to wear glasses even for a couple of hours.

MacDaddy said:

More sad news for 3D - Imax is moving away from 3D.

http://www.thewrap.com/imax-moving-away-3d-consumers-shown-strong-preference/

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bming said:

Very mean of them not to show the new Blade Runner movie in 3D. The Melbourne IMAX Cinema show all available 3D films on their playlist in 3D only. If anything the price differential is putting people off in this country . and those poor treasures that cannot bare to wear glasses even for a couple of hours.

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I absolutely agree with you. And actually, the price differential between 2D/3D is sometimes minuscule from Amazon's third party vendors.

Most Fortunately, I'm been purchasing a lot of Region Free 3D steelbook editions from UK's Zavvi and those with region free blu ray players can actually make out like bandits when Zavvi has their frequent sales. And shipping to the US is minimal and ALL steelbooks arrive in perfect condition.

BTW, the 3D glasses which come with the LG OLED 3D TVs are negligible in weight and fit comfortably and unobtrusively over my prescription glasses. You're right: what IS the BIG DEAL in wearing them for a couple of hours.

They don't like 3D glasses because they make it harder to see the food they are stuffing in their mouths while watching.

4-earredwonder said:

...what IS the BIG DEAL in wearing them for a couple of hours.

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I hate wearing my prescription glasses, let alone another pair over the top when I'm trying to relax.

AmazonUS has just reduced the price of Deep Purple Live at Wacken 3D from $12.99 to $9.99 http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Deep-Purple-From-the-Setting-Sun-Blu-ray/135777/ :banana:

sukothai said:

I hate wearing my prescription glasses, let alone another pair over the top when I'm trying to relax.

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So spring for prescription 3D glasses killing two birds with one stone.

No one likes wearing glasses except nerds. But unfortunately, those of us not blessed with 20/20 vision have NO option!:yikes

I use clip on glasses over my prescription glasses and I don't even know it is there. It is just like the sun glasses I clip on when I am outside.

https://www.amazon.com/Tacloft-Unis...r=8-2-spons&keywords=clip+on+3d+glasses&psc=1

sukothai said:

I hate wearing my prescription glasses, let alone another pair over the top when I'm trying to relax.

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3D Polaroid Clip On Glasses are always available. Got a pair free with my 3D monitor. @:

edisonbaggins said:

Well, sure, but I can't imagine that much of what is filmed is "absolute black." Graphics, sure. The artist can choose black for artwork, but for physical objects there is usually some kind of tonal variation going on.
It just boggles my mind that the TV would shut off pixels when detecting "absolute black," even though that may be only for the briefest instant.

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I have many astronomy dvds that use lots of pure black.

I finally bought a 3d stinker. The Amazing Spiderman in 3D. The dirt cheap price should have been a signal. Watching it was spending two hours rooting for it to end. Almost filmed entirely at night it has very little color, could have been shot in b&w and no one would have noticed. The story was straight out of Japan from 1960 and so was the "monster". The only redeeming quality was seeing Emma Stone. The 3D effect was barely noticeable.

seilerbird said:

I have many astronomy dvds that use lots of pure black.

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004YOEFG8

pure awesomeness