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    I am really excited for this album. I lost interest in Ayreon 4-5 years ago for some reason, but this one has renewed my interest.

    But, I can't bring myself to preorder it without knowing what is on the DVD. I am sure Dolby Digital compression will destroy the fidelity of music with so much going on.

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    I'm concerned as well.

    It almost certainly is DD, since Arjen confirmed it himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFuM...lppdqvjtdmpzc4

    Perhaps jump into the comment thread there, and/or suggest he takes a look at our discussion thread here? It would be awesome if he did a bit of research on compression and formats before he mixes his other albums in 5.1 (which he indicated he wants to do).

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    I just emailed him asking about the format and told him that dulby is not a good idea (short version of my mail ). I also pointed him to this thread.

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    I am fine if it is in dd, of course i would prefer hi rez, but i have his first surround dvd, Actual fantasy revisited, i think that is dd also and sounds great to me. It is in my top 10 favorite surround or quad albums. Can't wait to hear this new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bright Side View Post
    I'm concerned as well.

    It almost certainly is DD, since Arjen confirmed it himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFuM...lppdqvjtdmpzc4

    Perhaps jump into the comment thread there, and/or suggest he takes a look at our discussion thread here? It would be awesome if he did a bit of research on compression and formats before he mixes his other albums in 5.1 (which he indicated he wants to do).
    Thanks Matt. I added some comments. I mentioned Opus too. Let's hope it helps for future releases at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanBakker View Post
    I just emailed him asking about the format and told him that dulby is not a good idea (short version of my mail ). I also pointed him to this thread.
    His answer "I really don't know, could you ask the record company, they can help you for sure order@mlgmerch.com " . So I did and this is what I wrote, hope y'all can live with it , no answer yet though:

    Dear Sirs, could you tell me what format this dvd will have? Hoping for at least DTS but MLP-lossless (DVD Audio) would be preferred, not just by me but many others (see link). I already ordered it by the way (2cd/dvd version). Dulby digital compression wouldn’t make the mix as good as it could be. I asked this question to Arjen himself but he had no clue and referred to this email address. There’s a thread about this album here: http://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?23061-Ayreon-quot-The-Source-quot-in-surround

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    This will be interesting. If it's DD, though, I don't expect that we can hope for better in future 5.1 releases, provided Arjen goes ahead with them. If the artist himself doesn't request a certain level of quality from a label, then I would suspect they'll just continue doing what they have been doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bright Side View Post
    This will be interesting. If it's DD, though, I don't expect that we can hope for better in future 5.1 releases, provided Arjen goes ahead with them. If the artist himself doesn't request a certain level of quality from a label, then I would suspect they'll just continue doing what they have been doing.
    I guess you're right but maybe if more of us point them in the right direction something will change? Feel free to use the email address in my previous post guys .

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    Ayreon - Everybody Dies (Official Lyric Video) The Source 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIDIQ View Post
    I just preordered Amazon us for 19.98.
    And, so did I. Here is the link for Amazon US

    The Source 2 CD & 1 DVD with DD 5.1 version

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanBakker View Post
    I guess you're right but maybe if more of us point them in the right direction something will change? Feel free to use the email address in my previous post guys .
    It is worth a try for sure, I have sent a email as well.
    Customer responses can make a difference, hope some more people send a email requesting them to put these recordings out in lossless form or at least DTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterzach View Post
    It is worth a try for sure, I have sent a email as well.
    Customer responses can make a difference, hope some more people send a email requesting them to put these recordings out in lossless form or at least DTS.
    Still no answer from them .

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    Yeeeaaah! Got my signed copy today plus promo poster! A week before official release date , not bad.
    A very beautyful digibook by the way, nice artwork! Ordered directly from Mascot Label.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas View Post
    Yeeeaaah! Got my signed copy today plus promo poster! A week before official release date , not bad.
    A very beautyful digibook by the way, nice artwork! Ordered directly from Mascot Label.

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    Same here.
    Now I wish I would like the music more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas View Post
    Yeeeaaah! Got my signed copy today plus promo poster! A week before official release date , not bad.
    A very beautyful digibook by the way, nice artwork! Ordered directly from Mascot Label.

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    Most important, how's the DD 5.1 on this?

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    Great surround mix, active, suits the music well:



    And the music is great too

    I had a problem ripping track 8 with DVD AE, but had no problem making a mkv and make flacs with audiomuxer, could not see anything wrong with the dvd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterzach View Post
    Most important, how's the DD 5.1 on this?
    Not listened yet, but Spock already answered I think. I hope to enjoy the album tomorrow!

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    Does that mean the actual sound quality is good?

    Thanks for sharing! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bright Side View Post
    Does that mean the actual sound quality is good?

    Thanks for sharing! :-)
    Yes, after listening session today I'm fully agree with Spock! This is a solid album, a true rock opera! The sound quality is quite good for Dolby, excellent surrond sound, some powerfull LFE channel during several songs. The music reminds me many groups style like Avantasia, Dream Theater, The Gentle Storm (Lucassen project with Anneke van Giersbergen) wich is a good thing for me. I am completely satisfied with the purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    Great surround mix, active, suits the music well:



    And the music is great too

    I had a problem ripping track 8 with DVD AE, but had no problem making a mkv and make flacs with audiomuxer, could not see anything wrong with the dvd.
    Thanks for this comment!!! Wouldn't have thought of that myself . I also had problems ripping track 8 and tried all the usual options (DVDAE and Audiomuxer).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanBakker View Post
    Thanks for this comment!!! Wouldn't have thought of that myself . I also had problems ripping track 8 and tried all the usual options (DVDAE and Audiomuxer).
    Great that my fix worked for you too

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterzach View Post
    Most important, how's the DD 5.1 on this?
    It is a stunning mix and the mastering sounds OK to me (for this type of music). There's also 30+ minutes of music videos and a "making of" section on the DVD. (have not listened to the CD's). I'm happy.

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