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    Still looking to pick up the Japanese set when the time comes.

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    Another Peppers rarity, from Peru. No back picture, lyrics retyped.
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    Just ripped the mono album from cd and the right channel is slightly louder than the left. Anyone else notice this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seremetcc View Post
    Just ripped the mono album from cd and the right channel is slightly louder than the left. Anyone else notice this?
    No, I have not had that issue, but my only listen was from the disc, not ripped like what you did.
    Different subject:
    After a couple of years acquiring a fair amount of Mono discs I have come to the conclusion they are best when listening via headphones. When I listen sitting in my spot looking at the right and left speaker my brain wants to trick me and I start hearing false stereo. I have also concluded that music I grew up on always sounds better in the stereo versions except I do hear different depth return, with Mono. I do like old jazz music in Mono.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marpow View Post
    No, I have not had that issue, but my only listen was from the disc, not ripped like what you did.
    Different subject:
    After a couple of years acquiring a fair amount of Mono discs I have come to the conclusion they are best when listening via headphones. When I listen sitting in my spot looking at the right and left speaker my brain wants to trick me and I start hearing false stereo. I have also concluded that music I grew up on always sounds better in the stereo versions except I do hear different depth return, with Mono. I do like old jazz music in Mono.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seremetcc View Post
    Just ripped the mono album from cd and the right channel is slightly louder than the left. Anyone else notice this?
    Poor mastering job if that is the case, but easy to fix with any audio editing program. I always found it useful when ripping mono vinyl records to record to stereo and then convert to a mono wave file, then for comparability (i.e. burning to CD) convert back to stereo, the mono stereo tracks are then perfectly balanced. I don't have a copy of this myself. the high price has put me off for now at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kap'n krunch View Post
    Psychoacoustics...same way, if you listen to double stereo....
    IMHO Mono can be enjoyed through any number of speakers, even mismatched ones. The mix stays perfect no mater what, no sweet spot! Back in the day I liked to hook up extra speakers to the mono AM table radio, a sort of fake stereo especially if wired out of phase!

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    Just found the super deluxe used, very good condition, fulfilled by Amazon US, for $65 shipped!
    I ought to be able to keep the BD and recover a lot of the cost by reselling!
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    Quote Originally Posted by edisonbaggins View Post
    Just found the super deluxe used, very good condition, fulfilled by Amazon US, for $65 shipped!
    I ought to be able to keep the BD and recover a lot of the cost by reselling!
    Thanks for the heads-up! I just did the same. Apparently they had more than 1!


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    Is there any way of getting the 5.1 mix / Blu-ray without buying the box? I have looked but couldn't find anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon M View Post
    Is there any way of getting the 5.1 mix / Blu-ray without buying the box? I have looked but couldn't find anything...
    No there is not, unless you happen to find a private seller on Ebay or something like that.

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    We will probably soon see single-disc counterfeits from China soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadwreck View Post
    We will probably soon see single-disc counterfeits from China soon.
    Just for that , they'll hack into your iphone (or whatever you have!)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcond View Post
    Thanks for the heads-up! I just did the same. Apparently they had more than 1!


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    Quote Originally Posted by edisonbaggins View Post
    Email says this is arriving by 8pm tonight! I hope it is the real deal...
    I️ already received mine. It was practically in brand-new shape. While there was no shrink wrap on the outer box, both the book and the album cover containing the discs had the original shrink wrap on it. In other words, it had never been played.

    Amazon Warehouse Deals is still showing this in stock at that heavily reduced price, so for anyone out there that was on the fence because of the list price, now is the chance to get it at a tremendous bargain price, practically new.


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    Quote Originally Posted by par4ken View Post
    Poor mastering job if that is the case, but easy to fix with any audio editing program. I always found it useful when ripping mono vinyl records to record to stereo and then convert to a mono wave file, then for comparability (i.e. burning to CD) convert back to stereo, the mono stereo tracks are then perfectly balanced. I don't have a copy of this myself. the high price has put me off for now at least.
    All that digital conversion is against my religion. I simply use a Y connector, and merge the two L and R channels and record to one channel. Then copy that chan and paste to missing chan. No digital conversion, and merging the two in analog reduces the noise floor right at the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadwreck View Post
    We will probably soon see single-disc counterfeits from China soon.

    And don't forget about Russia...they have made Pink Floyd their own..you can get a lot of single disc "fakes" from their catalog...I'm sure they wouldn't pass up a Beatles opportunity

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    Decided it was worth getting at this price. I order from Warehouse Deals a lot - items are often new items with minor damage incurred in shipping. Amazon indicated that they had 15 of these sets in warehouse deals condition when I ordered.

    Fwiw, I got a very good copy of 1+ for $20 from Warehouse Deals as well.

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    Well, a good friend invited me over to hear this. I really see this mix as a missed opportunity, which is quite disappointing given the wonderful job I thought they did on the "Love" surround mix. In particular, LSD and Mr Kite were very underwhelming. Given the work that Giles had already done cutting apart the Lucy track, I totally expected a psychedelic treatment where the notes were floating around the room randomly like colored dots in front of your eyes when the Mescaline kicks in (or so I've heard). In the same way, when Henry the Horse starts dancing, I felt it would have been entirely appropriate to center the organ but have the effects spinning around you in a dizzying manner, the way the organ on a carousel would remain stationary as you ride, but all of the sounds from outside would be spinning as the ride twirls. "Day in the Life" was nice, but pedestrian. A treatment completely not befitting that song. Only two songs actually benefited from the surround mix in my estimation. The separation given the small ensemble in "When I'm Sixty-Four" gave an interesting freshness to that tune (not one of my favorites on the album) and "Penny Lane" was literally the only mix that had me hearing things I hadn't before. Again, the fact that the whole album didn't do this is a wasted opportunity.

    I've yet to even mention the most egregious blunder of all. The LFE channel is an awful mess. For starters, it is entirely too loud. My friend had to turn his sub down twice just to get it to "play nicely" with the other channels. Once that was accomplished, it was horrible "flubby" and indistinct. Plus, it seemed to only carry far too much of Paul's bass fundamental but I heard little to none of the kick drum fundamental. It's really all but inexcusable IMHO.

    In a way, this is probably appropriate for a 50th Anniversary release. For fifty years I've heard about how the mono was the go to mix and the stereo was an afterthought. With this release it seems that the stereo is finally the go to mix and the surround was treated as an afterthought.

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    Currently $97.15 on amazon.com:
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    Quote Originally Posted by rtbluray View Post
    Currently $97.15 on amazon.com:
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    OR...you could get the "like new"...and in some cases brand new...warehouse specials from amazon...for less HERE....it has the same protections that come with any "new" amazon product...if your aren't satisfied you can return it.

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    I recently bid on the 5.1 bluray for $45 shipped but didn't get it. Thanks to this forum, I saw the set was available used on Amazon for $65 shipped. All the tumblers went down and I bought it. Like you all, I figure on getting a good chunk of that back by re-selling it minus the bluray. I didn't buy this set when it first came out because of poor reviews of the 5.1, in addition to the fact that I'm not really into box sets for the prices they are asking. After listening to this, I'm a little confused about all of the negative comments on the 5.1. I suspect if you don't like it, it could be an equipment issue (not set up properly or misadjusted etc... My system is set up for 4 large full range speakers, as I seem to remember Lou Dorren saying you you don't need subwoofer's (with their bass management issues) and center channels ( I think they dilute the front stereo image). My OPPO 95 sets these speaker adjustments and of course High Res Audio comes from the Oppo's RCA outs to my 4ch preamp/amp ( A slider control sets the front-back level-much easier than all that digital menu gobbilty goop). I don't think I've ever heard a better Quad than Ringo's "When I'm 64"! I only need to make one more comment.....get this disc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVB View Post
    I didn't buy this set when it first came out because of poor reviews of the 5.1, in addition to the fact that I'm not really into box sets for the prices they are asking. After listening to this, I'm a little confused about all of the negative comments on the 5.1. I suspect if you don't like it, it could be an equipment issue (not set up properly or misadjusted etc... I don't think I've ever heard a better Quad than Ringo's "When I'm 64"!
    I don't think the negative comments stem from any kind of misadjusted systems. That idea gets pushed around quite a bit when there is a difference of opinion on the quality of a mix.

    Its not that the 5.1 Pepper mix is bad. It isn't. It's the idea that it could have been so much better if they hadn't tried to play it so safe and "respect the mono" as much as they touted. It definitely offers improved sonics over any version I've ever heard before. And the 5.1 does open up a lot of the tracks. There are even a few that are reasonably discrete, but none of it is consistent through the album. Yep, 64 is good. So is "Within You without You", and "Strawberry Fields" from what I remember. But most of the rest of it drops off a notch in the discreteness category. I think I remember the title track and its reprise as being especially tame. Some of this may well be due to what Giles had to work with in terms of multi-tracks, but the general feeling was that the mix was intentionally toned down.

    To my ear it does sound a lot better with the rears turned up 3 dB or so. In general, boosting the rear levels is not something I have to do with any other recording I can think of. So it makes me wonder if those who feel its a "10" right out of the box aren't the ones who have the misadjusted systems.

    Quote Originally Posted by TVB View Post
    My system is set up for 4 large full range speakers, as I seem to remember Lou Dorren saying you you don't need subwoofer's (with their bass management issues) and center channels ( I think they dilute the front stereo image). My OPPO 95 sets these speaker adjustments and of course High Res Audio comes from the Oppo's RCA outs to my 4ch preamp/amp ( A slider control sets the front-back level-much easier than all that digital menu gobbilty goop).
    I do respect Lou Dorren's ideas, but I gotta disagree with some of this and how you have applied it to this release. A change to full range loudspeakers vs monitors & subs wont fix the lack of discreteness on the Pepper release. The bass isn't the issue. Not only that, I'll put my monitors + sub system up against 80% of the so called "full range" loudspeakers out there, and I'm reasonably sure I'll get more extended, cleaner bass. Its all about the positioning. Seldom do the ideal loudspeaker positions for imaging and the ideal position for bass response fall in the same place. And what bass management issues are you referring to? I have no problem setting mine up and keeping it in good tune.

    Modern DSP systems can do a remarkable job of setting levels and frequency contours. The adjustments are likely better than anything any of us might be able to do by ear. I don't use any DSP equalization contour on my system (I do pay attention to what the analysis tells me however, and have used it to integrate a sub) but I do use it to set levels. Its at least as good as I can do with my ears and an SPL meter. Probably better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyQuad View Post
    I don't think the negative comments stem from any kind of misadjusted systems. That idea gets pushed around quite a bit when there is a difference of opinion on the quality of a mix.

    Its not that the 5.1 Pepper mix is bad. It isn't. It's the idea that it could have been so much better if they hadn't tried to play it so safe and "respect the mono" as much as they touted. It definitely offers improved sonics over any version I've ever heard before. And the 5.1 does open up a lot of the tracks. There are even a few that are reasonably discrete, but none of it is consistent through the album. Yep, 64 is good. So is "Within You without You", and "Strawberry Fields" from what I remember. But most of the rest of it drops off a notch in the discreteness category. I think I remember the title track and its reprise as being especially tame. Some of this may well be due to what Giles had to work with in terms of multi-tracks, but the general feeling was that the mix was intentionally toned down.

    To my ear it does sound a lot better with the rears turned up 3 dB or so. In general, boosting the rear levels is not something I have to do with any other recording I can think of. So it makes me wonder if those who feel its a "10" right out of the box aren't the ones who have the misadjusted systems.



    I do respect Lou Dorren's ideas, but I gotta disagree with some of this and how you have applied it to this release. A change to full range loudspeakers vs monitors & subs wont fix the lack of discreteness on the Pepper release. The bass isn't the issue. Not only that, I'll put my monitors + sub system up against 80% of the so called "full range" loudspeakers out there, and I'm reasonably sure I'll get more extended, cleaner bass. Its all about the positioning. Seldom do the ideal loudspeaker positions for imaging and the ideal position for bass response fall in the same place. And what bass management issues are you referring to? I have no problem setting mine up and keeping it in good tune.

    Modern DSP systems can do a remarkable job of setting levels and frequency contours. The adjustments are likely better than anything any of us might be able to do by ear. I don't use any DSP equalization contour on my system (I do pay attention to what the analysis tells me however, and have used it to integrate a sub) but I do use it to set levels. Its at least as good as I can do with my ears and an SPL meter. Probably better.
    Ringo had nothing to do with When I'm 64, that is Paul. Ringo sang With a Little Help. I think the surround is sensational and I don't have my rears turned up. I especially love the animal effects on Good Morning. I have been listening to this album since the day it was released and it never sounded better than the surround issue. I have listened on many different systems and in many different environments and the surround beats them all by miles. Could have it been more discrete in the rear channels? Maybe, but I don't care. I am not comparing a 60s 4 track recording with modern recordings or even DSOTM, I compare it to what I have heard it sound like in the past. WYWY is so much better it is off the scale.

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