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    Does this press release come in English? Need a translation for sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtbluray View Post
    I think we will all be thrilled if they continue on to include reissues of the studio Quadraphonic mixes on SACD. The same probably cannot be said for our wallets, however…
    Oh and speaking of wallets, preorder is now up for "Lotus" on amazon, and it's a ouch price!

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MV3SPLJ/
    Hey guys,

    If you're in the States and you want to order from an Amazon site, you're better off ordering direct from Amazon Japan:

    https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01MV3SPLJ/?language=en_US

    You will have to create a new account, unlike European Amazon sites, but that should be easier thanks to their recent incorporation of English translation. Once you choose to ship to a US address, Amazon.co.jp will remove the ¥640 Japanese sales tax from the item price. Their shipping charge is currently only ¥950 for one copy, and the item should ship via DHL Express, and take about 2-3 days to arrive. So as it stands with the current exchange rate, the SACD would be about $71 before shipping to the US, and $79.50 shipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winopener View Post
    ...and some bonus tracks too (35 min, pratically a 4th LP!)

    http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/SICP-10116


    translation by google

    Lotus Legend Complete Edition - HYBRID 4.0 - [Limited Edition] / Santana
    This live album contains Osaka performance on July 3rd and 4th, 1973, and it was a tremendous performance that the young Santana band in the first heyday performed before the Japanese audience and later the Guinness World Record The 22-sided jacket which is also certified is a monumental work by live in Japan where artworks with an unexpected scale are handed down still. It is also a work that has special meaning to Santana fan of Japan, because Japanese worked for everything necessary for record production, from planning to recording, photography, design and so on. It was discovered at the end of last year that the analog / multi tape which was actually used in the recording of "Lotus legend" was kept in the warehouse of Sony music of Japan for a long time, it was collected for the first time in 44 years. In analogue multitape which had never been used since 1974, although there was a song whose performance was interrupted due to some tape exchanges or a reel which was lost for some reason, most of the concert 2 days It turns out that the performance record is in good condition that I can not think it is the tape of the 1970s. The sound source which was inevitably cut at that time due to the fraction of the analog LP fraction recorded is also firmly left, and "Japan" "bamble" "Ummu Uum" "sacred light" "the creator husband · A master plan · "SAVER" · "Conga · SOLO" 7 songs (about 35 minutes) newly added, so that all the songs played in Osaka will be arranged here. The mix of these excavation sound sources was performed by engineer Tomio Suzuki who worked on numerous masterpieces such as the original "Legend of Lotus" and Beck Bogart & Apis "Live in Japan". We carefully chose the equipment and cables to make it sound as unrelated as possible to the preexisting sound source and it was mixed and it was mixed in the mix master while keeping the natural and dynamic sound image of the analog tape. The seven pieces (songs) that were missing from the original board were captured in the place as ordered in the actual songs, and it became a "complete version" without surviving from the head to the end, and the rare nationwide performance revived. [2017 year commemoration board] - DSD 11.2 MHz mastering was done SACD, that DSD master. Direct conversion didCD. 2 layer structure according to high sound quality hybrid disc specification * SACD4.0. Listen at the actual live venue Surround · mix board that brings a realistic feeling such as ● Reproduced in 7 inches · size faithfully original to the "22 sided face jacket" (design: Tadanori Yokoo) which was also certified for Guinness world record ● Color · portrait of original LP enclosure , Irregular size · liner notes, the first edition Reprint ● First tour to Japan tour tour · Resizing of brochures Reprinted ● Resized tickets for the Osaka performance on July 4 ● Luxury separate booklet: Legend of Lotus by Carlos Santana / Music that followed the pattern of the first visit "Music · Life" cover feature (August issue of 1973) / 73 years secret photo / new commentary (Hideto Isoda, Tomio Suzuki et al.) / Testimonies "(Tadanori Yokoo, Teruhisa Tajima et al.) / Original Liner Notes (Matsumoto Katsuo) in 1974 ● 7-inch paper jacket specifications ● 2017 DSD remaster board (DSD 11.2 MHz remastering)
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    Imho it would be a big digital dowload sale if they released the stereo/quad mixes in DSD256 format.

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    It's going to cost a small fortune when it arrives, as in the UK on top of the Import Duty there will be the Tax Collecting charge of the courier, so I think its going to be a bit over £100/$122 when mine arrives

    ....but I want to encourage them to release more from the Quad Vaults! ....... and I bought the AF SQ encoded version

    Quote Originally Posted by rtbluray View Post
    I think we will all be thrilled if they continue on to include reissues of the studio Quadraphonic mixes on SACD. The same probably cannot be said for our wallets, however…
    Oh and speaking of wallets, preorder is now up for "Lotus" on amazon, and it's a ouch price!

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MV3SPLJ/
    254 SACD (219 Multi, 35 Stereo), 218 DVD-Audio/DTS/DD, 27 Blu-ray Audio (19 Multi, 8 Stereo), 14 SQ LPs, 2218 plain old stereo CDs

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanS View Post
    It's going to cost a small fortune when it arrives, as in the UK on top of the Import Duty there will be the Tax Collecting charge of the courier, so I think its going to be a bit over £100/$122 when mine arrives

    ....but I want to encourage them to release more from the Quad Vaults! ....... and I bought the AF SQ encoded version
    Hey Duncan,

    I'm not sure if you know, but I just checked what the charges would be to the UK from Amazon.co.jp, and I got this:

    Items: GBP 59.71
    Shipping & Handling: GBP 7.84
    Import Fees Deposit GBP 13.51
    Order Total: GBP 81.06

    I believe parcels to the UK would still be sent via DHL Express. Would that make it a bit cheaper, given the automatic import fees deposit from Amazon Japan?

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    Tomoo Suzuki is involved with this release and that's a likely possibility we can expect to see more of his mixes. Such as a discrete MOUNTAIN-TWIN PEAKS ( and if he did the Kooper/Bloomfield-Live Adventures Of.), or any others we don't know of , of popular artists.

    But like Ryan, I would prefer Studio mixes over live ones.

    BTW importcds has this on pre order for approx $30 beans less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott65 View Post
    I don't have any vintage quad equipment or recordings (other than rereleases on SACD and Blu-Ray) but I have played a lot of CDs through the surround master and I love it! At the moment I'm listening to the Beatles through it and enjoying it big time.
    FWIW There are a number of " quad encoded " cds available, SQ and QS mainly.

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    Wow, thats great. Thanks.
    The tax collection fee is around £15.

    Quote Originally Posted by McCrutchy View Post
    Hey Duncan,

    I'm not sure if you know, but I just checked what the charges would be to the UK from Amazon.co.jp, and I got this:

    Items: GBP 59.71
    Shipping & Handling: GBP 7.84
    Import Fees Deposit GBP 13.51
    Order Total: GBP 81.06

    I believe parcels to the UK would still be sent via DHL Express. Would that make it a bit cheaper, given the automatic import fees deposit from Amazon Japan?
    254 SACD (219 Multi, 35 Stereo), 218 DVD-Audio/DTS/DD, 27 Blu-ray Audio (19 Multi, 8 Stereo), 14 SQ LPs, 2218 plain old stereo CDs

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    Quote Originally Posted by fizzywiggs41 View Post
    Tomoo Suzuki is involved with this release and that's a likely possibility we can expect to see more of his mixes. Such as a discrete MOUNTAIN-TWIN PEAKS ( and if he did the Kooper/Bloomfield-Live Adventures Of.), or any others we don't know of , of popular artists.

    But like Ryan, I would prefer Studio mixes over live ones.

    BTW importcds has this on pre order for approx $30 beans less.
    Are you referring to AF's stereo LOTUS SACD or SONY Japan's multi 3 disc set because the SONY Japan LOTUS is: http://www.importcds.com/lotus-compl.../4547366293159

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanS View Post
    Wow, thats great. Thanks.
    The tax collection fee is around £15.
    No problem.

    Hopefully, you can get your copy into the UK as cheaply as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4-earredwonder View Post
    Are you referring to AF's stereo LOTUS SACD or SONY Japan's multi 3 disc set because the SONY Japan LOTUS is: http://www.importcds.com/lotus-compl.../4547366293159
    $68.81 is a great price, because right now, at least, it's not counted by them as a "heavy" item, so the shipping is only $2.99, making it $71.80 shipped. It seems like ImportCDs is actually taking a small loss on this title...not quite sure why, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the price increase.

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    Ugh - I could not resist. I ordered from import CD. Why them? Cause they offered Paypal Credit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOS View Post
    Ugh - I could not resist. I ordered from import CD. Why them? Cause they offered Paypal Credit.
    Don't feel guilty, Gene. I did a REAL number on my credit card today as well!

    Just hope this title lives up to our expectations.

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    Is it still unknown if Lotus from Sony uses a true 4.0 mix, or is being done from SQ conversion?

    Because if this does not have real true quad 4.0 on it then it's a scam imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4-earredwonder View Post
    Are you referring to AF's stereo LOTUS SACD or SONY Japan's multi 3 disc set because the SONY Japan LOTUS is: http://www.importcds.com/lotus-compl.../4547366293159
    4.0 multi SACD. Sixty Nine beans.


    http://www.importcds.com/music/sacd

    http://www.importcds.com/lotus-compl.../4547366293159

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    Quote Originally Posted by grill View Post
    Imho it would be a big digital download sale if they released the stereo/quad mixes in DSD256 format.
    Sony Music Japan is making the new Santana Lotus: Complete Edition available as a Stereo DSD 256 music download as well as a Stereo DSD 64 music download, Stereo PCM 24/96 music download and a Surround Sound SACD.
    They have many choices available on April 19th.

    http://positive-feedback.com/audio-d...plete-edition/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmoura View Post
    Sony Music Japan is making the new Santana Lotus: Complete Edition available as a Stereo DSD 256 music download as well as a Stereo DSD 64 music download, Stereo PCM 24/96 music download and a Surround Sound SACD.
    They have many choices available on April 19th.

    http://positive-feedback.com/audio-d...plete-edition/
    SONY is going all out for this release and 'perhaps' portends the future for further Santana releases, IMO. Hope my calculations aren't premature.

    Good news, at any rate for lovers of DSD, PCM and hi res physical discs. Everyone wins!

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    An expansive packshot of the new Japanese SACD release:



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    Quote Originally Posted by rtbluray View Post
    An expansive packshot of the new Japanese SACD release:


    Beautiful, looks like a photo book that was not in original release is included.

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    Wow.. is that Abraxas & Caravanserai artwork I can see in there?
    Maybe Sony Japan will come thru and reissue all the Santana Quads after all...!?
    "Surround Sound From The End of the World to Your Town"
    837 SACD (688 MCh), 353 DVD-A, 298 SQ LP,
    138 CD-4, 136 Audio-DVD, 118 DualDisc, 114 BD-A,
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    Quote Originally Posted by rtbluray View Post
    An expansive packshot of the new Japanese SACD release:


    wow, where oh where will I keep all these different sized "pieces of art"? lmao
    Now I'm glad I ordered it....if anything it sure looks cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredblue View Post
    Wow.. is that Abraxas & Caravanserai artwork I can see in there?
    Maybe Sony Japan will come thru and reissue all the Santana Quads after all...!?
    where Adam? I looked around didn't see anything. But, I've never been the best at finding specific titles others seem to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredblue View Post
    Wow.. is that Abraxas & Caravanserai artwork I can see in there?
    Maybe Sony Japan will come thru and reissue all the Santana Quads after all...!?
    Weird huh. !

    They almost look like a back to back copy via blu-ray . But I think your onto something there--Faithful Freddie .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOS View Post
    where Adam? I looked around didn't see anything. But, I've never been the best at finding specific titles others seem to find.
    in the centre left of the image that Ryan posted here earlier (few posts back << ) you can see the sleeve art for Abraxas & Caravanserai in some little booklet... hmm.. I may have to get this after all (cost seemed mega prohibitive but it does look absolutely gorgeous..)
    "Surround Sound From The End of the World to Your Town"
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredblue View Post
    in the centre left of the image that Ryan posted here earlier (few posts back << ) you can see the sleeve art for Abraxas & Caravanserai in some little booklet... hmm.. I may have to get this after all (cost seemed mega prohibitive but it does look absolutely gorgeous..)
    Oh! I thought you meant you saw a couple new pre-orders on CD Japan with no covers showing.

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    Default Re: Santana Lotus: Complete Edition in SACD Surround Sound and DSD 256 Stereo Downloa

    Quote Originally Posted by fredblue View Post
    Wow.. is that Abraxas & Caravanserai artwork I can see in there?
    Maybe Sony Japan will come thru and reissue all the Santana Quads after all...!?
    Yep, Adam, plain as day.

    Methinks, based on the positive response to the SONY/JAPAN Jeff Beck QUAD releases, we WILL, in fact, see all those Santana QUADs eventually released in 7" deluxe packaging SOUNDING BETTER THAN EVER!

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