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    Default Santana Lotus: Complete Edition in SACD Surround Sound and DSD 256 Stereo Download

    ...and some bonus tracks too (35 min, pratically a 4th LP!)

    http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/SICP-10116


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    Lotus Legend Complete Edition - HYBRID 4.0 - [Limited Edition] / Santana
    This live album contains Osaka performance on July 3rd and 4th, 1973, and it was a tremendous performance that the young Santana band in the first heyday performed before the Japanese audience and later the Guinness World Record The 22-sided jacket which is also certified is a monumental work by live in Japan where artworks with an unexpected scale are handed down still. It is also a work that has special meaning to Santana fan of Japan, because Japanese worked for everything necessary for record production, from planning to recording, photography, design and so on. It was discovered at the end of last year that the analog / multi tape which was actually used in the recording of "Lotus legend" was kept in the warehouse of Sony music of Japan for a long time, it was collected for the first time in 44 years. In analogue multitape which had never been used since 1974, although there was a song whose performance was interrupted due to some tape exchanges or a reel which was lost for some reason, most of the concert 2 days It turns out that the performance record is in good condition that I can not think it is the tape of the 1970s. The sound source which was inevitably cut at that time due to the fraction of the analog LP fraction recorded is also firmly left, and "Japan" "bamble" "Ummu Uum" "sacred light" "the creator husband · A master plan · "SAVER" · "Conga · SOLO" 7 songs (about 35 minutes) newly added, so that all the songs played in Osaka will be arranged here. The mix of these excavation sound sources was performed by engineer Tomio Suzuki who worked on numerous masterpieces such as the original "Legend of Lotus" and Beck Bogart & Apis "Live in Japan". We carefully chose the equipment and cables to make it sound as unrelated as possible to the preexisting sound source and it was mixed and it was mixed in the mix master while keeping the natural and dynamic sound image of the analog tape. The seven pieces (songs) that were missing from the original board were captured in the place as ordered in the actual songs, and it became a "complete version" without surviving from the head to the end, and the rare nationwide performance revived. [2017 year commemoration board] - DSD 11.2 MHz mastering was done SACD, that DSD master. Direct conversion didCD. 2 layer structure according to high sound quality hybrid disc specification * SACD4.0. Listen at the actual live venue Surround · mix board that brings a realistic feeling such as ● Reproduced in 7 inches · size faithfully original to the "22 sided face jacket" (design: Tadanori Yokoo) which was also certified for Guinness world record ● Color · portrait of original LP enclosure , Irregular size · liner notes, the first edition Reprint ● First tour to Japan tour tour · Resizing of brochures Reprinted ● Resized tickets for the Osaka performance on July 4 ● Luxury separate booklet: Legend of Lotus by Carlos Santana / Music that followed the pattern of the first visit "Music · Life" cover feature (August issue of 1973) / 73 years secret photo / new commentary (Hideto Isoda, Tomio Suzuki et al.) / Testimonies "(Tadanori Yokoo, Teruhisa Tajima et al.) / Original Liner Notes (Matsumoto Katsuo) in 1974 ● 7-inch paper jacket specifications ● 2017 DSD remaster board (DSD 11.2 MHz remastering)
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    Thumbs up Maybe it's just the beginning for Santana in Quad...

    Amazing news if indeed the Quad tapes were found. This may mean that we could see the other Quad Santana titles released. That in itself is fabulous news.

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    Default Re: Look what they found! Santana Lotus 4.0 masters....

    Another reason to Not have bought the AF release! Clairvoyance.....

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    Default Re: Maybe it's just the beginning for Santana in Quad...

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon A View Post
    Amazing news if indeed the Quad tapes were found. This may mean that we could see the other Quad Santana titles released. That in itself is fabulous news.
    They did found even the original multi, thus the presence of some other tracks omitted from the 1974 release.

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    Default Re: Look what they found! Santana Lotus 4.0 masters....

    Exciting! Ahem...would I really spend $70 US dollars for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOS View Post
    Exciting! Ahem...would I really spend $70 US dollars for this?
    As I listened to the AF stereo reissue of LOTUS I kept saying to myself.....this would sound great in surround.

    And with the bonus material, I know, I, personally, will be double dipping to own this multichannel release.

    And YES, SONY Japan will release LOTUS in that very special 7x7" packaging akin to the Jeff Beck mch releases.

    2017 DSD remastering..

    And as Simon A intimated....this could very well be the beginning of all the Santana QUAD masters FINALLY being released!

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    Pre-ordered!
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    Default Re: Look what they found! Santana Lotus 4.0 masters....

    Well if they found those multi's one has to wonder if there are other Live Quad or Quad Studio tapes of other artists that were exclusive to Sony.

    Or perhaps even Japanese Quad master copies supplied by CBS/Columbia for the Asian market, most especially tapes of quad albums that A.F. could not obtain for various reasons. Always a good idea to check out the warehouse, periodically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fizzywiggs41 View Post
    Well if they found those multi's one has to wonder if there are other Live Quad or Quad Studio tapes of other artists that were exclusive to Sony.

    Or perhaps even Japanese Quad master copies supplied by CBS/Columbia for the Asian market, most especially tapes of quad albums that A.F. could not obtain for various reasons. Always a good idea to check out the warehouse, periodically.
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    Default Re: Maybe it's just the beginning for Santana in Quad...

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon A View Post
    Amazing news if indeed the Quad tapes were found. This may mean that we could see the other Quad Santana titles released. That in itself is fabulous news.
    My thoughts exactly!
    I don't want to say anything just yet, but I may have found some other interesting listings relating to this new release, but I want to do some research on them in case they do not turn out to be what we all want them to be…


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    Quote Originally Posted by rtbluray View Post
    My thoughts exactly!
    I don't want to say anything just yet, but I may have found some other interesting listings relating to this new release, but I want to do some research on them in case they do not turn out to be what we all want them to be…

    It appears there's nothing else for the time being besides "Lotus".
    All of the other Santana listings I found on CDJapan and amazon are low budget CD(only) reissues.
    Still I hope this particular release has now opened the door for more Santana Multichannel SACD releases in Japan, as expensive as they may be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GOS View Post
    Exciting! Ahem...would I really spend $70 US dollars for this?
    I certainly won't, I think the album sucks and I am a huge Santana fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seilerbird View Post
    I certainly won't, I think the album sucks and I am a huge Santana fan.
    May I ask why you don't like it? The performances? The song selection? The sound quality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seilerbird View Post
    I certainly won't, I think the album sucks and I am a huge Santana fan.
    I don't think it sucks, but I won't be spending a hundred (Canadian) dollars on it. I am quite satisfied playing the CD through my Tate decoder ... and spending that $100 on a few other disks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla View Post
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    Well, lookie-lookie...we just happened to "find" this. Just in time to not make it available for Audio Fidelity's Lotus project...what are the odds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillydipper View Post
    Well, lookie-lookie...we just happened to "find" this. Just in time to not make it available for Audio Fidelity's Lotus project...what are the odds...
    Maybe it's the outside interest shown to this title in 4.0 that got Sony Japan to consider a release of its own for their market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon A View Post
    Maybe it's the outside interest shown to this title in 4.0 that got Sony Japan to consider a release of its own for their market.
    ... or maybe AF didn't really try that hard.

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    So they are moving on to Santana. Does this mean that Jeff Beck is over. I was hoping we would see that possible live album with Jan Hammer released in quad. Perhaps it does not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip Spinner View Post
    So they are moving on to Santana. Does this mean that Jeff Beck is over. I was hoping we would see that possible live album with Jan Hammer released in quad. Perhaps it does not exist.
    I am sure that there are a number of unknown quadraphonic mixes from the mid-to-late 70s that were never released because of quad's demise. I would rather see those released digitally, rather than titles that have already been released in analog quad formats. We already have those to enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla View Post
    ... or maybe AF didn't really try that hard.
    That we'll never know. Truth of the matter is, someone has finally decided to release it. I'm grateful for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon A View Post
    That we'll never know. Truth of the matter is, someone has finally decided to release it. I'm grateful for it.
    I agree with you, but I am concerned that the high price will turn away a lot of potential buyers, and the record company might take that as an indicator that there is nothing to be gained by the effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla View Post
    I agree with you, but I am concerned that the high price will turn away a lot of potential buyers, and the record company might take that as an indicator that there is nothing to be gained by the effort.
    I understand your point but I truly wonder how many Japanese releases such as this one are still sitting on the shelves after a few years? I think the market for this product has more followers than those of other companies because for the high cost you obtain equally high value. That value then increases on the secondary market. The only way I'd see this product fail is if the sound is atrocious.

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    Finally found tapes, could very well be a matter of" misfiled " in their archives and finally someone stumbled across the mistake while looking for something different.
    I worked in an office with thousands of files and although rare in occurance,"misfiles" did happen.


    I was actually pretty good at finding some of these...........so........if they need me to locate something believed to be lost in their shelves of warehoused tapes ??, I'd be more than happy to oblige.

    Quad sleuthing is right up my alley !!

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