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    27 28.13%
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    32 33.33%
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    21 21.88%
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    6 6.25%
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    5 5.21%
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    1 1.04%
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    Of course this album is a classic, but I was tired of it years ago and I was hoping a new surround mix would revive my original excitement from when I first heard it. It didn't and my score reflects my disappointment. I adjusted the levels and really tried to find that original joy - it never came.

    Better surround mixes have spoiled me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sukothai View Post
    Of course this album is a classic, but I was tired of it years ago and I was hoping a new surround mix would revive my original excitement from when I first heard it. It didn't and my score reflects my disappointment. I adjusted the levels and really tried to find that original joy - it never came.

    Better surround mixes have spoiled me.
    Ahhh..expectations will f*ck with you every time...that's why I've tried to not have high hopes for many things...

    Funnily enough, I am a HUGE FAN of "Wild MCH mixes" and I find this one is VERY GOOD...of course, like I say, we would ALL have done things differently to our own liking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sukothai View Post
    Better surround mixes have spoiled me.
    I think a lot of expectations for this one were set by the Love DVD-A and the Yellow Submarine BD-V. We know how the album could have been mixed differently.
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    I gave it a 7. I posted this in what now appears to have been the wrong thread, so I'll put it here as well...

    Well, a good friend invited me over to hear this. I really see this mix as a missed opportunity, which is quite disappointing given the wonderful job I thought they did on the "Love" surround mix. In particular, LSD and Mr Kite were very underwhelming. Given the work that Giles had already done cutting apart the Lucy track, I totally expected a psychedelic treatment where the notes were floating around the room randomly like colored dots in front of your eyes when the Mescaline kicks in (or so I've heard). In the same way, when Henry the Horse starts dancing, I felt it would have been entirely appropriate to center the organ but have the effects spinning around you in a dizzying manner, the way the organ on a carousel would remain stationary as you ride, but all of the sounds from outside would be spinning as the ride twirls. "Day in the Life" was nice, but pedestrian. A treatment completely not befitting that song. Only two songs actually benefited from the surround mix in my estimation. The separation given the small ensemble in "When I'm Sixty-Four" gave an interesting freshness to that tune (not one of my favorites on the album) and "Penny Lane" was literally the only mix that had me hearing things I hadn't before. Again, the fact that the whole album didn't do this is a wasted opportunity.

    I've yet to even mention the most egregious blunder of all. The LFE channel is an awful mess. For starters, it is entirely too loud. My friend had to turn his sub down twice just to get it to "play nicely" with the other channels. Once that was accomplished, it was horrible "flubby" and indistinct. Plus, it seemed to only carry far too much of Paul's bass fundamental but I heard little to none of the kick drum fundamental. It's really all but inexcusable IMHO.

    In a way, this is probably appropriate for a 50th Anniversary release. For fifty years I've heard about how the mono was the go to mix and the stereo was an afterthought. With this release it seems that the stereo is finally the go to mix and the surround was treated as an afterthought.

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    I listened to this the other night after not playing it for quite some time. Despite the underwhelming multi-channel mix, the thing that bothers me is amount of compression. I actually found listening to it a bit tiresome this time around. Perhaps I will need to dink with the LFE channel. You know, it is funny how quickly one becomes used to a new and better sounding recording of an old favorite. Once the new recording becomes the norm it becomes subject to nit picking for sonic flaws.

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    I voted 7. Kind of a weak 7. The mix has been discussed to death. It is stronger, IMO, if you lower the fronts by 2 or 3 db.
    This is mastered pretty freakin' loud, so I wouldn't raise the rears.
    Anyhow, other than blasting this record on my friend's hi-fi in mono, this is a good as this album gets for me.
    It's such a great and important album that I'm glad I have a weak 7 for surround, rather than nothing at all.
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    I voted a 9. Loved the sound and the extras that are included were excellent IMHO.

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    After a revisit around 6 months of listening I would just bump my original vote down 1 to a 9. This iconic album sounds great on my 7.2 Yamaha system (prefer Dolby True HD over DTS Master) it has the surround backs in a front height position. Haven't listened to it on the Integra Atmos system 5.1.2 yet ?
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    I wish Steve Wilson had played with these tapes in his own studio..so many blunders here its annoying....the mix here needs help in the rears and the sound quality throughout has rolled top end..even my mono lp pressing from 1967 has more extended highs than any 5.1, stereo or mono mix from this collection..at least lovely rita is an improvement on the rather strange original stereo mix we've always had...other than that the whole new set bored me with the dullness..maybe Giles Martin will get it right one day..I wonder if he's ever heard a cymbal...I can get all my old sgt pepper lp's( mono and stereo) to sound like this if I throw a blanket over the speakers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherLees View Post
    I wish Steve Wilson had played with these tapes in his own studio..so many blunders here its annoying....the mix here needs help in the rears and the sound quality throughout has rolled top end..even my mono lp pressing from 1967 has more extended highs than any 5.1, stereo or mono mix from this collection..at least lovely rita is an improvement on the rather strange original stereo mix we've always had...other than that the whole new set bored me with the dullness..maybe Giles Martin will get it right one day..I wonder if he's ever heard a cymbal...I can get all my old sgt pepper lp's( mono and stereo) to sound like this if I throw a blanket over the speakers...
    How does the mono version in the box sound to you? This is the only version I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seremetcc View Post
    How does the mono version in the box sound to you? This is the only version I have.
    original mono has decent top end.....new mono is rolled...even the vinyl box sets of a few years ago were rolled top end compared to virtually anything analogue from the 60's and 70's on vinyl...could be an abbey rd problem i guess maybe something in their chain is screwing things up...but ultimately it's just boring the way it is sounding these days...compared to what was previously done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherLees View Post
    original mono has decent top end.....new mono is rolled...even the vinyl box sets of a few years ago were rolled top end compared to virtually anything analogue from the 60's and 70's on vinyl...could be an abbey rd problem i guess maybe something in their chain is screwing things up...but ultimately it's just boring the way it is sounding these days...compared to what was previously done.
    you may be forgetting a very important factor...AGE!!!!!

    It has been 50 years and it's a minor miracle we can still play those...of course you all know, EVERY TIME it gets played, a Baby Unicorn dies ...no, wait , that was fredblue's post...so , of course it's not gonna sound nearly as goods as it did FIFTY (count'em , fifty) yeas ago...
    And you'll be DAMN lucky to get a "barely played" mono LP ...especially a UK version....The Beatles GOT PLAYED...it was THE group back then ....and still is!..I have a Mono Wide Spine one, which looks good , but when played, you can tell it was played with a bad needle ;( ...it still sounds great , but...oh, maaaaannn!!!!

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