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    Default Re: Marillion - MISPLACED CHILDHOOD [Blu-Ray Audio]

    Just had my first listen to the 5.1 mix. Initially, I was horrified that the energy seemed to be missing when compared to the original stereo mix. Of course it was because I am so very much used to the original mix (It is my most played Marillion album). Then, I listened again with the volume at a much higher level. The opening to Bitter Suite gave me goose bumps. Win!

    I do think the vocals could have been at a slightly higher level. I played it in 5.1 using my HDMI pre, and found the centred vocals a bit too centred. I preferred playing it with my Quad DAC setup where the vocals are sent to both fL & fR. There's room correction with that as well, so it always sounds better to my cloth ears. I haven't listened to the 2ch remaster as yet.

    I'm giving it

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    Default Re: Marillion - MISPLACED CHILDHOOD [Blu-Ray Audio]

    Baggy gave this release a quasi-well-deserved 10...
    Some of you Ma' Fuggas down-graded this mix undeservedly and you KNOW it...
    This is maybe a 9. Maybe a 10. Why quibble? This wasn't recorded for multichannel.
    It was economically recorded for stereo and expertly translated here.
    It is immersive. It is occasionally discrete. It is tasteful and musical.
    The extras on this set are everything you could hope for. Videos. Interviews. B-sides. Just get this!
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    Default Re: Marillion - MISPLACED CHILDHOOD [Blu-Ray Audio]

    Perhaps I am wrong in my thinking but I am giving this an 8 with my deductions being 5.1 mix related.
    I LOVE this album too death and originally agreed that it was so efficiently recorded and mixed that there wasn't an abundance of layered material to expand upon in surround. The documentary illustrates that a point. The guys are discussing how the band recorded the majority of side one in single takes.

    However, in that same documentary the band and producer Chris Kimsey (on more than one occasion) isolate sounds they hear on playback. Sounds that still seem buried even in the 5.1 mix. When they isolated some of the vocal takes, it reveled some interesting layers in Fish's lyrics that would seemed to have been better explored more fully into the surround mix. To be fair some of what they played back during the documentary likely would be distracting to the overall piece. Near the end of the album, buried on the vocal track is what the band called a "drunken chorus" with the drummer plainly isolated saying "how was that chris?".

    I also feel that the drums have been marginalized in Steve's mix. My impression of the original mix is that all the main instrumentation (guitars, keyboards, drums) are evenly leveled in the mix. I was expecting Steve to put a little more punch in the drums. I have no skills at this (I just like to listen) and don't even know if it could have been done. The playback of the isolated tracks in the documentary perhaps illustrates that it could have been done.

    I still feel that Steve did a great overall job. Maybe I unrealistically expected something more - Maybe I would have liked him to mess with the mix a bit more. Maybe I am glad he didn't. More than likely, I perhaps shouldn't expect him to automatically make a masterpiece even more priceless. For the uninitiated to Marillion, this is likely the most straight forward album they have made. The band jumps light years ahead in instrumentation, effects and layers in next title announced in the series - "Brave".

    I am still going to stick with the 8. My feelings say the drums have always need a tad more prominence and given the documentary; the backing vocals could have been more prominent in the surround field. All without compromising the spirit of the original.

    Blessed having it now improved in surround - wishing it was just a tad bit better.

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    Default Re: Marillion - MISPLACED CHILDHOOD [Blu-Ray Audio]

    I gave this mix a 10........Steve Wilson has hit another homerun imho.

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    I voted 10. I like others never heard this before and the biggest surprise to me is how well I actually like the music, very Genesis sounding. The catchy tunes and the extended jams are very good. The 4 videos, the making of commentary, Steven Wilson saying he didn't have much to work with as it was originally recorded so well and almost live continuation of tape, makes this a 10 for me.

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    This is an excellent reissue. I believe Steven Wilson when he says he did all he could with multi tracks to create the 5.1 mix. And while its not the last word in discreteness, it is quite enveloping and enjoyable. In terms of overall fidelity, this is the best this release has ever sounded in my experience. I love the album, and all the extra content is very worthy. I do wish "Freaks" could have also been given the 5.1 treatment, but its great to have "Lady Nina". It follows the Jethro Tull reissue packaging style, which I like very much. I'd do a 9.5 if I could, but alas, I'm limited to whole numbers, and I always round up. A 10 from me.

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    Il'l have to echo the general sentiments here and call it a 9.....not the last word in quadiness, but very good presentation and sound quality, love the extras and book style. I had been listening to the RBCD recently since its announcement, that CD had been missing for so many years, didn't even remember that I had it/

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    I love the album, been playing it everyday since I got it. Great surround mix and fidelty, a strong 9!

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    Votes so far on this are 8-10 with one 4 by MCDave who admits his system was set up incorrectly at the time of voting and asked for it to be revised. Will the scores be adjusted therefore to truly reflect the voting for the polls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by capsid View Post
    Votes so far on this are 8-10 with one 4 by MCDave who admits his system was set up incorrectly at the time of voting and asked for it to be revised. Will the scores be adjusted therefore to truly reflect the voting for the polls?
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    Hopefully it will throw my 4 out. I noticed that the '4' in the poll results is in italic font, whereas all the other numbers are normal. Maybe that's an indication that the algorithm is treating it as an outlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCDave View Post
    Hopefully it will throw my 4 out. I noticed that the '4' in the poll results is in italic font, whereas all the other numbers are normal. Maybe that's an indication that the algorithm is treating it as an outlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skherbeck View Post
    Your vote always shows up in italics.
    Just his does? lmao...I kid, I kid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    I love the album, been playing it everyday since I got it. Great surround mix and fidelty, a strong 9!
    Yeah me too. So much so, that the Misses asked for a moratorium on Marillion music. Could be that I've also been playing the deluxe version of "Script for a Jester's Tear" in my car as well. I told her it could be worse... it could be the Sgt Pepper album or Songs From the Wood that I developed a jones for (both of which she pretty much despises for some reason). Not to worry, a few days of Flaming Lips in heavy rotation and she'll be begging me to go back to the Marillion again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyQuad View Post
    Yeah me too. So much so, that the Misses asked for a moratorium on Marillion music. Could be that I've also been playing the deluxe version of "Script for a Jester's Tear" in my car as well. I told her it could be worse... it could be the Sgt Pepper album or Songs From the Wood that I developed a jones for (both of which she pretty much despises for some reason). Not to worry, a few days of Flaming Lips in heavy rotation and she'll be begging me to go back to the Marillion again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyQuad View Post
    Yeah me too. So much so, that the Misses asked for a moratorium on Marillion music. Could be that I've also been playing the deluxe version of "Script for a Jester's Tear" in my car as well. I told her it could be worse... it could be the Sgt Pepper album or Songs From the Wood that I developed a jones for (both of which she pretty much despises for some reason). Not to worry, a few days of Flaming Lips in heavy rotation and she'll be begging me to go back to the Marillion again.
    Here my 20 year old daughter commented that she liked the Marillion album, she did not like Sgt Pepper - but she loves The Flaming Lips. Usually when she likes music I play, she first asks for the name of the artist - then she asks if they are still alive and if positive - if they still performs and makes records. I believe she checks them out on her Spotify.

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    Default Re: Marillion - MISPLACED CHILDHOOD [Blu-Ray Audio]

    I voted 9, in no small way because this release finally put me over the threshold of liking this album. That was no small feat, because I went through a period of actively disliking it.

    In 1991, I was carrying a torch for a brilliant and capable woman who had become a good friend. She loaned me a CD of this album. I didn't like it very much, and I was dumb enough to tell her. Turns out it was one of her nearest and dearest things in the world. It goes without saying that romance never took flight. No regrets, but I really blew it.

    If you're on the fence not even really a fan of the band, you should give this a shot. it's a solid presentation and may hit you in a way previous presentations of the material haven't.

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    Fidelity: Superb. I've heard things I've never heard before. I'm used to a "24-bit remastered" CD from a few years ago and the bass on that one was cranked up to 11. This new mix is a lot more pleasant on the old earholes.

    Surround Mix: Expectations were low when I read Steven Wilson said "expanded stereo" but I don't know why I doubted. It's awesome.

    Content: Generous! The yap with the band was fun and they seem like a bunch of cool geezers. Great to see the music videos on there too. These deluxe sets are getting closer to becoming a little time-capsule which I like. Would have been good to have ALL of the content on the BD too, cos then I don't need to haul my skinny frame off the couch to change discs, but I ain't complainin'.

    If you're on the fence, buy it! You won't be disappointed. All too frequently-neglected melody will be oozing out your speakers.

    I got mine with Fish's signature. Thought I detected a whiff of curry in the pages but it could have been the ink. Or some bay leaves from his garden?!

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    sound quality and surround mix are really good, the content is excellent. Currently I'm listening to the live-cds and I can't help but thinking that Script For A Jester's Tear would even be better in surround... Anyway - 9 points it is.

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    Yes, I can't wait for Clutching, Script and Fugazi, in that order please

    While I do agree with most that Misplaced Childhood is their best album musically, I actually listen to it the least of the 4. That's kind of a pattern I have with most bands. ELP's BSS is their pinnacle, but I listen to it the least. Same with Kansas...Leftoverture and Point of Know Return are their best, but I listen to the earlier albums more. Saga too, the first 3 albums get more playtime than Worlds Apart. I have no explanation for this phenomenon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCDave View Post
    Yes, I can't wait for Clutching, Script and Fugazi, in that order please

    While I do agree with most that Misplaced Childhood is their best album musically, I actually listen to it the least of the 4. That's kind of a pattern I have with most bands. ELP's BSS is their pinnacle, but I listen to it the least. Same with Kansas...Leftoverture and Point of Know Return are their best, but I listen to the earlier albums more. Saga too, the first 3 albums get more playtime than Worlds Apart. I have no explanation for this phenomenon.
    I do - I have the same issue. Sabbath, Paranoid is their tour de force....but I hardly listen. It's because I'm burned out on the air play and obviousness. I generally prefer less familiar titles from all of my favorites.

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    Sounds better to me with the center channel boosted (where the vocals are).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wavelength View Post
    Sounds better to me with the center channel boosted (where the vocals are).
    Agreed. I trimmed the center up by just 1 db using my Emotiva preamp. It made a significant improvement.

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    I thought I had never heard this before when I purchased it... but when I played the CD in my car last week, I knew every song! I had a girlfriend when I was 19 who was into Marillion, so I figure she must have had it. Anyway, love the music. This entire album will make it to my surround playlist... as 2 songs ("Side 1" and "Side 2"). Unfortunately, I have to agree with a couple other QQers in terms of the mix... while the surround aspect of the mix is good, I feel both the drums AND the vocals are a little low... especially when compared to the stereo mix (which I've been listening to all week). I can live with the drums but I'll be adjusting the vocals for my playlist. GREAT set, though, and well worth the money. I really hope we get more surround releases from these guys. 8.
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