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    New 2018 Acura A-Spec/SH-AWD/Tech
    ELS 10 speaker, surround 5.1/DTS
    Apple Car Play, & Android
    500 watts
    Some of my DTS faves; (Gaucho, Hell Freezes Over, etc.), sound damn good
    BT Audio, through Amazon, or Spotify, rocks
    Still miss my DVD/Audio, in the old 2012/TL, but this new A-Spec, is WAY BETTER overall

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPR View Post
    New 2018 Acura A-Spec/SH-AWD/Tech
    ELS 10 speaker, surround 5.1/DTS
    Apple Car Play, & Android
    500 watts
    Some of my DTS faves; (Gaucho, Hell Freezes Over, etc.), sound damn good
    BT Audio, through Amazon, or Spotify, rocks
    Still miss my DVD/Audio, in the old 2012/TL, but this new A-Spec, is WAY BETTER overall:thumbsup:
    A-Spec/SH-AWD...what model is that...is it an SUV? after looking at their website I see they also offer a system that is like ELS but with Krell designed speakers..

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    Still cruising in a 2016 TLX w/ELS. Can't beat surround in the car.

    Never had the old system with DVD-A. I'd imagine it was probably better, but at least they left some kind of discrete surround in the car. Personally I think Multichannel FLAC would be the way to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by CPR View Post
    Some of my DTS faves; (Gaucho, Hell Freezes Over, etc.), sound damn good
    BT Audio, through Amazon, or Spotify, rocks
    Still miss my DVD/Audio, in the old 2012/TL, but this new A-Spec, is WAY BETTER overall
    No need to limit yourself to commercially released DTS discs...there are plenty of ways to convert DVD-A &a Blu-Ray to DTS. SACD is a bit tricker of course...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjcorne View Post
    Still cruising in a 2016 TLX w/ELS. Can't beat surround in the car.

    Never had the old system with DVD-A. I'd imagine it was probably better, but at least they left some kind of discrete surround in the car. Personally I think Multichannel FLAC would be the way to go.



    No need to limit yourself to commercially released DTS discs...there are plenty of ways to convert DVD-A &a Blu-Ray to DTS. SACD is a bit tricker of course...
    Will your vehicle or the 2018 Acura's play multi channel FLAC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood View Post
    Will your vehicle or the 2018 Acura's play multi channel FLAC?
    Nope.

    Some Audi's and a few other higher end vehicles supposedly have that feature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjcorne View Post
    Nope.

    Some Audi's and a few other higher end vehicles supposedly have that feature.
    I think Range Rover/Land Rover has it...I saw a thread on here...can't remember which it was..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood View Post
    A-Spec/SH-AWD...what model is that...is it an SUV? after looking at their website I see they also offer a system that is like ELS but with Krell designed speakers..
    A-Spec is the new Super TLX; same car, but upgraded chassis, seats, steering, electronics, tire, wheels, etc.Blue A-Spec.jpg
    Last edited by CPR; 01-12-2018 at 07:57 PM. Reason: adding picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPR View Post
    A-Spec is the new Super TLX; same car, but upgraded chassis, seats, steering, electronics, tire, wheels, etc.
    Yeah...I was looking around the Acura website....it's a package...thanks for the info...I'm kinda in the market...one day I am and the next I'm not...the meridian 825 in the land rover seems perfect....but that website drives me crazy trying to find the right model with the surround system I want...this post got me excited

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood View Post
    Yeah...I was looking around the Acura website....it's a package...thanks for the info...I'm kinda in the market...one day I am and the next I'm not...the meridian 825 in the land rover seems perfect....but that website drives me crazy trying to find the right model with the surround system I want...this post got me excited
    You won't find anything about DTS capability on the website or at a dealership. They don't even know what features they've got in their radio. I wouldn't be surprised if the DTS decoding was an accidental addition to thto new system.

    Only reference you'll see to it is in the car's manual, and when you put a disc a tiny DTS logo appears on the screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPR View Post
    New 2018 Acura A-Spec/SH-AWD/Tech
    ELS 10 speaker, surround 5.1/DTS
    Apple Car Play, & Android
    500 watts
    Some of my DTS faves; (Gaucho, Hell Freezes Over, etc.), sound damn good
    BT Audio, through Amazon, or Spotify, rocks
    Still miss my DVD/Audio, in the old 2012/TL, but this new A-Spec, is WAY BETTER overall
    Congrats on the TLX. The A-Spec is a sweet looking car. It's a shame that it does not have some of the stuff in the Advance package. Acura constantly shoots itself in the foot by doing things like this, or not having some of the features in the lower priced Honda similar models. I could never understand that.

    I had a 2018 loaner TLX (not A-Spec) but with DTS and I have to admit it does sound better than the DTS in my 17 RDX, but there are some discs that I have that actually do sound good in my car, despite my initial howling about it. I can't put my finger on it, and it's not EQ, because I've tried many things. I am sure that the DTS stereo enhancement is nowhere near as good as the Dolby in the earlier DVD-A systems, I swear a lot of my regular CDs sound mono in the car.
    :-jon

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    What's even sadder is when you talk to MOST of these car salesman.... and when you mention this problem of actually playing surround material on the sound system of these vehicles...you get that deer in the headlights look...they have no idea what you are talking about..it's especially disappointing when you are looking at luxury vehicles...I mean this is their job...to know everything about these vehicles...and most of them are clueless...and when you try to get the information you need from the car company website...it's even worse...they tell you how many speakers the vehicle has and little else

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjcorne View Post
    You won't find anything about DTS capability on the website or at a dealership. They don't even know what features they've got in their radio. I wouldn't be surprised if the DTS decoding was an accidental addition to thto new system.

    Only reference you'll see to it is in the car's manual, and when you put a disc a tiny DTS logo appears on the screen.
    Correct! They are clueless unless an aficionado of dvd -a . Wonder though, if the dvd a with DTS tracks will play?
    I grabbed a Hona sampler that came with the new Hondas with dvd a capability- $10.00 and they were happy to sell it! That one has the complete version of "Fly like an eagle" with the effects at start and end. Missing from the 5.1 disc offering
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood View Post
    What's even sadder is when you talk to MOST of these car salesman.... and when you mention this problem of actually playing surround material on the sound system of these vehicles...you get that deer in the headlights look...
    Last time I went for a test drive I brought a DTS conversion of the Acura DVD-A test disc (though I took out some of the tracks originally included and replaced them with my own choices). The "Winelight" channel check freaked the sales guy out. And you should've seen his face when I told him it was from an Acura-issued DVD.

    It's almost comical how little they know...and it's a shame too because they had one of the best and most unique car stereo systems on the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leevitalone1 View Post
    That one has the complete version of "Fly like an eagle" with the effects at start and end. Missing from the 5.1 disc offering
    The version of "Fly Like An Eagle" on that Acura sampler is sourced from the 30th Anniversary Dolby-only DVD with a new 5.1 mix. It's still 48khz but obviously MLP offers superior sound compared to Dolby Digital. It's completely different from the old DTS-CD that has the quad mix. Both versions are still missing the "Space Intro" though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonUrban View Post
    Congrats on the TLX. The A-Spec is a sweet looking car. It's a shame that it does not have some of the stuff in the Advance package. Acura constantly shoots itself in the foot by doing things like this, or not having some of the features in the lower priced Honda similar models. I could never understand that.

    I had a 2018 loaner TLX (not A-Spec) but with DTS and I have to admit it does sound better than the DTS in my 17 RDX, but there are some discs that I have that actually do sound good in my car, despite my initial howling about it. I can't put my finger on it, and it's not EQ, because I've tried many things. I am sure that the DTS stereo enhancement is nowhere near as good as the Dolby in the earlier DVD-A systems, I swear a lot of my regular CDs sound mono in the car.

    Jon; if you drove the new SH-AWD A-Spec, you'd see what an improvement this car is
    Transmission, finally shifts properly; the seats, especially the driver's; (there's an electric thigh support), the electric steering, 19" tires, suspension, etc.,
    Acura, finally got it right; a HOME RUN!
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    I think the only options I have to get 5.1 in my next car is get another Audi (my 2014 A4 is stereo) or get a Jaguar.
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    NOTE: I moved all of the 2019 Acura RDX stuff to it's own thread. It really doesn't belong in CPR's thread.

    http://www.quadraphonicquad.com/foru...-1-DVD-A!!-(-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by leevitalone1 View Post
    Correct! They are clueless unless an aficionado of dvd -a . Wonder though, if the dvd a with DTS tracks will play?
    I grabbed a Hona sampler that came with the new Hondas with dvd a capability- $10.00 and they were happy to sell it! That one has the complete version of "Fly like an eagle" with the effects at start and end. Missing from the 5.1 disc offering
    IMHO I think NOT; I have several DVD/Audio's, with DTS tracks, like LIVE BOWIE, that do NOT play in the ELS system; wish they would

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