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    Default Chicago - CHICAGO (II) [DVD-A]

    Everyone knows it as "Chicago II", but the real name of the release is just "Chicago"!

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    Default Re: WE 9/19/2004 [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album)

    Quote Originally Posted by JonUrban
    Everyone knows it as "Chicago II", but the real name of the release is just "Chicago"!
    Excellent music, excellent mix. My overall vote would be 9.5 because it lacks the outstandingness of such a beauty as GYBR but since decimals are not allowed i gave 10.

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    Default Re: WE 9/19/2004 [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album)

    If I only knew more people who appreciated the band, this would be one of my demo discs. But to those who like the band, they are certainly blown away when they hear it (as was I when I first did).

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    Default Re: WE 9/19/2004 [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album)

    I was blown away by the sonics of the DVD-A version of this disc compared to the remaster redbook and especially ther original cd version. The mix is great, the songs are classics. A definite 10 in my book.

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    Default Re: WE 9/19/2004 [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album)

    The overall quality of this disc is much better sounding than the origonal CD, and the surround mix is very good also. I rate it a 9.

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    Default Re: [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album) (17)

    Very nicely done! Wish I loved the music more, it still seems a tad erratic to me after all these years, but no denying the quality of the mix!


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    Default Re: [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album) [21]

    Okay, I'm a bit behind the times here. Just picked this one up (along with "V") the other day (relatively cheap at Fry's--$15 or so, if i recall).

    Great mix - very emmersive (sp?). This is a group whose music begs for the surround treatment. I've never been a huge fan of Chicago, outside of their hits (which I do love), but now I can't wait to grab some more of these - anyone know if Warner/Rhino has any more in the works??
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    Default Re: [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album) [21]

    V remains my fave Chicago album.

    We'd all like to see more, but the fact remains that there is just very little coming out of the pipeline, with many titles delayed for so long it's hard not to be fatalistic about it all.

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    Default Re: [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album) [21]

    Chicago X was a phantom DVD-A announcement last year; do hope more surface as these are great releases.
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    Default Re: [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album) [21]

    As a massive Chicago fan, this disc is an absolute revelation sonically. The CD and LP were always marred by a weird muddiness and phase problems. I think Danny Seraphine's drumming comes out most improved in the new version, not only with sonics (drums sound like drums and not like cardboard boxes and trashcan lids) but also a lot of subtle nuances such as fills and cymbal work that were previously buried or inaudible in the mix. I also like the solo instruments being primarily in the center channel, it gives them a 'realness' that's really fun to hear. Having said that, I actually like the quad mix better for it's discreteness. There's a front-centric quality to the DVD-A mix that puts me off, it seems most of what's in the rears is either reverb or instruments mixed so low you can't even hear them. It might surprise you then when I still give it a 10 - the sonics just can't be beat!

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    Default Re: [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album) [27]

    No vote - I don't own this. I recently acquired an old SQ Columbia Quad lp of this title, and while I no longer can properly decode it - I am enthralled by the sound of this lp in folded down stereo. I really enjoy the fact that on the SQ mix, the lead guitar track is is not faded in and out like on the original stereo - so you have about 5 minutes of Terry Kath filling in some of the tastiest licks I've ever heard.

    Has anyone compared the old Quad mix to the newer surround mix?

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    Default Re: [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album) [27]

    I love it and want CTA and III, Puhlease
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    Default Re: [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album) [27]

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Al
    No vote - I don't own this. I recently acquired an old SQ Columbia Quad lp of this title, and while I no longer can properly decode it - I am enthralled by the sound of this lp in folded down stereo. I really enjoy the fact that on the SQ mix, the lead guitar track is is not faded in and out like on the original stereo - so you have about 5 minutes of Terry Kath filling in some of the tastiest licks I've ever heard.

    Has anyone compared the old Quad mix to the newer surround mix?
    I know for a fact that the guitar on "25 or 6 to 4" on the DVD-A doesn't have the extra guitar bits like on the sq or q8 version. I'm not really aware of any other tracks that had extra parts on the quad vs. the original stereo mix.

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    Default Re: [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album) [27]

    Quote Originally Posted by zabble
    I know for a fact that the guitar on "25 or 6 to 4" on the DVD-A doesn't have the extra guitar bits like on the sq or q8 version. I'm not really aware of any other tracks that had extra parts on the quad vs. the original stereo mix.
    On the other hand, the quad mix of "wishing you were here" found on both Chicago 7 (vii) and on the greatest hits (chicago 9 ix) is missing one acoustic guitar at the beginning of the song.

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    Default Re: [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album) [27]

    Quote Originally Posted by zabble
    I know for a fact that the guitar on "25 or 6 to 4" on the DVD-A doesn't have the extra guitar bits like on the sq or q8 version. I'm not really aware of any other tracks that had extra parts on the quad vs. the original stereo mix.
    Rest easy - I forgot to mention the song "25 or 6 to 4" in my initial post. It was the song I was referring to.

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    Default Re: [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album) [27]

    Quote Originally Posted by JonUrban
    Everyone knows it as "Chicago II", but the real name of the release is just "Chicago"!
    Yeah on their first release they called themselves Chicago Transit Authority if memorie serves me right.

    I havent voted yet, but I wanted to post. I will vote, but I wanted to re-listen to this masterpiece. I grew up with an uncle that was a big Chicago fan and the minute I saw this was out I ordered it without hesitation. I truely enjoy every piece of music on this disk regardless of formatt. Very nastalgic for me. Anyway, I hesitate to vote without re-listening because I havent listened in a while and I want to be able to appreciate the multichannel aspect of the disk, but I will say that from a content standpoint it is a 10 for me.

    I also have Chicago V, its very good, but not as good as this disk IMO.

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    Default Re: [DVD-A]: Chicago (Second Album) [27]

    Quote Originally Posted by Foxman
    I also have Chicago V, its very good, but not as good as this disk IMO.
    It is very good but I agree it does pale to II soundwise!!
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    Default Re: Chicago (Second Album) [DVD-A]

    Good clean sounding surround mix. The Chicago Horn Section shines well on this one.
    I gave it an 8 and that was pushing the envelope though. The Chicago II as was metioned before by others is a better sounding disc. But if you like "Saturday In The Park" it is a great reason to add this one to your collection I guess. I think that was the main reason I bought this one, as I have the CD but never gave it a serious listen.

    Sorry, I made a Boo-Boo , I was actually commenting on the Chicago V album. I should pay more attention at to where I am I guess !

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    Default Re: Chicago (Second Album) [DVD-A]

    I can't believe that this was recorded in 1968!!!! The sonics of this disk are nothing short of spectacular. The mixes are excellent, especially "Fancy Colours". I would highly recommend this disc to anyone who likes this style of music. As a side note, does anyone know how this DVD compares to the Columbia quad mix?

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    Default Re: Chicago (Second Album) [DVD-A]

    Good recording...glad I bought it. An 8.

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    Default Re: Chicago (Second Album) [DVD-A]

    Sadly I don't own this one - yet - but I did hear it recently so feel qualified to vote.
    I had not heard the CD either, and when this was played to me it was suggested I hear the CD first - and I am glad I did. There is quite simply no comparison whatsoever between the two.

    This disc is now at the top of my "To Buy" list, right underneath the Diana Krall DualDisc that is unavailable in the UK.

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    Default Re: Chicago (Second Album) [DVD-A]

    Scratch this one off of my "To Buy" list.

    I picked it up over the weekend and gave it two good listens.
    My first listen left me a little unmoved. The second made me appreciate what I had just purchased. As was stated before, this was recorded in 1968. I pulled out my vinyl copy and gave it a spin between listens. There is no comparison. The separation and clarity is very impressive. My support of DVD-A is once again proven.
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    Default Re: Chicago (Second Album) [DVD-A]

    My old man had this on double vinyl when I was a kid and I LOVED to listen to it as a teenager, so when I got this on DVD-A, I was absolutely blown away. The sonics blow even the original LP out of the water. The surround mix is excellent and the sonics, oh man, you just can't say enough. I never would have dreamed that the album could sound this good. My only gripe is, same as always, I just think this album is a little too long. It gets monotonous after a little while. But that's no knock on the DVD-A. A 9.5, rounded up = 10.

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    Default Re: Chicago (Second Album) [DVD-A]

    I compared the SQ LP to this DVD-A. The DVD-A uses the stereo version of the album. No altered lyrics/vocal lines or instrument parts of the old quad lp. The surround mix also puts instruments in different places vs. the old SQ mix.

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    Default Re: Chicago (Second Album) [DVD-A]

    Quote Originally Posted by bliss_band View Post
    I compared the SQ LP to this DVD-A. The DVD-A uses the stereo version of the album. No altered lyrics/vocal lines or instrument parts of the old quad lp. The surround mix also puts instruments in different places vs. the old SQ mix.
    Interesting. Never noticed that. Good catch!
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