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Thread: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

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    Default Re: Bowie, David ZIGGY STARDUST.... [SACD]

    Quote Originally Posted by daved64 View Post
    Didn't Ken Scott do the mix? He was the original producer.
    Yes, he did - it says so in the box.
    It just sounds as if it was done in an afternoon by someone who doesn't know it IMHO.
    This is actually starting to grow on me though.....

    Still waiting to find the other MC SACD of Bowie - in case of.
    I have heard Heathen & reality, and the mixes are a lot better.....
    All I need is somewhere to buy the beasts.....cannot find here at all.
    Last edited by neil wilkes; 09-02-2007 at 11:43 AM.
    Oh well, whatever - nevermind.

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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    Appreciate the links - Reality there is a DualDisc though, and I already have that one thanks to a fellow member here.
    Oh well, whatever - nevermind.

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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    This SACD is the only multichannel SACD or DVD-A I could find at my local Best Buy yesterday that I don't already have. I almost picked it up, but I guess I will pass based on what I have read here and at Steve Hoffman Forum. My memory was that it was pretty good, but I have to conclude that once again, my memory was faulty.

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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    Well, all you have to do is look at the poll results....while there are some misgivings and mediocre ratings, on the main, QQ seems to like the disc and mix, while acknowledging it shoulda been better. If you're a fan of the album, it's still a must-have; if you're more a MC enthusiast, you still need it, there just aren't that many '70s MC titles anyway, so it's worth the investment.

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    Thumbs up Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    I found a copy last night in with regular stock in my local Best Buy Find of the month!

    I love this record, and the surround mix, though subtle, is well done. I think, as the blurb on the back cover states, you must play it LOUD to get the proper effect. Worth a 9 to me.
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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    I bought this SACD as soom as it came out, and have no regrets. Always enjoy it, and I find the surround mix entirely appropriate to the material. Kudos to Ken Scott.

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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    A classic album lovingly mixed for surround by the legendary Ken Scott (and Paul Hicks) at Abbey Road Studios.

    Ken knows how it should sound... he was there at the beginning.

    A must have for any Rock surround collection.

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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    Quote Originally Posted by filper View Post
    A classic album lovingly mixed for surround by the legendary Ken Scott (and Paul Hicks) at Abbey Road Studios.

    Ken knows how it should sound... he was there at the beginning.

    A must have for any Rock surround collection.

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    So what you're saying is I should have bought the copy I saw at a BB in Chicago in June?

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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    I picked this up because I love the album musically it is incredible but sonically it was a let down. The mix isn't bad in multichannel but everything sounded much flatter than I was expecting from this source and I had to blast the volume to hear it.

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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    Quote Originally Posted by Siberian29 View Post
    I picked this up because I love the album musically it is incredible but sonically it was a let down. The mix isn't bad in multichannel but everything sounded much flatter than I was expecting from this source and I had to blast the volume to hear it.
    That is a GOOD thing. Crank it, and the dynamic range is fantastic. Everything comes to life!

    Remember: "you own the volume knob, not the producer."
    Last edited by Felix E. Martinez; 03-27-2009 at 11:48 PM.

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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    I got this album just to hear Suffragette City which is my all-time fave Bowie tune.

    To me, the mix is .... I guess a good word is "static". It's not gimmicky or doing anything weird. In fact, when I found out this was released in the states as an RCA album, it kind of made me wonder if this was an unreleased vintage Quad mix?? It screams out like it was an older, CD-4 mix with a couple instruments in back, most everything else up front with some good left to right separation and vocals straight up the middle. It's not mind-blowing, but it works! I really don't know how it could be improved on?
    The voices in my head come from Right Rear only!

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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    6 - I just can't get into this - even though it is a classic....

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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    I was at my local record store in Atlanta and the salesman showed me this SACD. It cost a little more than I wanted to spend on a MC disc, but I could not pass it up. Just listening to it brings to mind two thoughts. First, this is a great album. I call it "strong", which to me means it is solid from start to finish. When Suffragette City is track 10, you know it is something special. Second, the MC mix is subtle but thorough. There were times I thought a vocal or chord could have been placed somewhere else, but overall the choices were intelligent. This is one of those discs that a touch here and there make it fun to listen to again.

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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    I gave it a "6" years ago and I'm still in that middling 5-6 range.

    It's not quite as disappointing as when I first heard it.. but I still always get the sensation that there could have been so much more done with this incredible music!

    The "Young Americans" DTS 5.1 DVD is a much better example of how to spruce up Bowie's classics in surround, IMHO.
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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    I really enjoy the SACD, so I gave an 8.
    Yes it is a bit thin sounding, but for me it's ok.
    In fact John Lennon said: "Give 5.1 a chance!"
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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    Quote Originally Posted by IMachine View Post
    I really enjoy the SACD, so I gave an 8.
    Yes it is a bit thin sounding, but for me it's ok.
    And that - along with the very conservative mix from Ken Scott - is my problem with it. The album just should not sound so thin, and it makes me think Ken's top end has gone.
    Come to think about it, most of Bowie's catalogue has been done badly - I wonder why?
    Oh well, whatever - nevermind.

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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    Quote Originally Posted by neil wilkes View Post
    And that - along with the very conservative mix from Ken Scott - is my problem with it. The album just should not sound so thin, and it makes me think Ken's top end has gone.
    Come to think about it, most of Bowie's catalogue has been done badly - I wonder why?
    For the old ones, Young Americans is the best one.
    Heathen is also very good.

    I think they had problems with the source material for the classics.
    In fact John Lennon said: "Give 5.1 a chance!"
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    Default Re: Bowie, David - ZIGGY STARDUST [SACD]

    Quote Originally Posted by IMachine View Post
    I think they had problems with the source material for the classics.
    I have heard this tired old line so often now I was starting to believe it - until I heard proper mix master tapes of the first 14 studio albums, and they blew me away.
    By comparison with the tape transfers, every digital version yet released sounds like a bad joke - it really does. I truly with that the labels would not mess with things as much, as even on the much touted 40th Ziggy release (which at first, if played on it's own sounds okay) it is only when you equalize volume and play alongside what I have that the true horror begins to make itself heard - the stereo image widens, the vocals lose the nasal quality & the bass end tightens up gloriously underneath Ronno's guitars. Ziggy has still never been heard how it was mixed in an released version.
    To summarize - there is absolutely nothing wrong with the source material & I think this all came about because for the RCA CD, one of them at least was taken from a cassette master as it was all that could allegedly be found at the time. Yeah.
    Oh well, whatever - nevermind.

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