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    Default Re: NEW RELEASE: Jeff Wayne's WAR OF THE WORLDS [SACD]

    I have not voted yet, because I have to listen to the whole thing, but............

    It showed up in the mail today, directly from Jeff Wayne Music (via eBay), and I immediatly cued up "Forever Autumn". Holy smokes, this thing sounds great. The guitars are EVERYWHERE!!!

    It is a very dicrete mix, with instruments and sounds all over the place. Very satisfying to a surround guy like me. The SACD sound is spectacular.

    More later.....................
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    I have listened to the whole Album from start to finish. I am a bigger fan of the first disc as opposed to the second but both have been fantastically realised. The PCM and Hi Rez Super Audio Stereo layers are both excellent but the Multi Channel recording is just superb. Even if you own, or have owned 'The War of the Worlds' already and have a Multi Channel SACD set up then this is definately worth picking up. 9/10.


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    Default Re: NEW RELEASE: Jeff Wayne's WAR OF THE WORLDS [SACD]

    I'm not a big fan of the album...it's really just a lot of cheese, and some of it--well, a lot of it--is faintly ridiculous, even though it can be evocative and haunting in places("Forever Autumn" is the album's only true masterpiece). Having Richard Burton do the narration from the professor's POV was a great coup(even when he didn't act well he had a marvelous voice). Of course I've never been a big fan of rock operas or concept albums like this, though to be fair, this holds together much better than things like Reizner's TOMMY, or ALL THIS & WORLD WAR II.

    That said...this is one of the most intelligent 5.1 mixes I've ever heard! Obviously it was remixed in a sense of the cinematic: Burton front and center, main instrumentation in front, and some very active action in the backs, and some nice woofer action!

    WOTW is a great example of a dubious project that is made more enjoyable--even at times delightful in its fashion--because of the multichannel mix(I think of my old Quad-8 of Steve Miller's FLY LIKE AN EAGLE: I was never a Miller fan, and didn't particularly like the album or the lightweight, derivative material, but the Quad mix won me over to the point where I really like it now in spite of myself... )

    And so I rate this a '10' strictly by the fact that I can't really imagine a mix that would be more fitting or sensible for this album...which is also my opinion of BROTHERS IN ARMS...I tried, listening many times, to find something different that could have been done. But I still can't, and I've played it beyond a dozen times(and WOTW three times thus far).

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    Default Re: NEW RELEASE: Jeff Wayne's WAR OF THE WORLDS [SACD]

    I give it an 8 simply cause I love the first disc but the second drags and isn't as lively as the first. That being said its a wonderful mix. I have the original vinyl the original sony 20 bit CD's, the twin SACD disc set and yes call me mad the super edition, all 7 discs. The book is oh so big and if your eyes are going so much easier to read. Havn't listened to it all - time will tell. Love the dialogue positions and the opening of the cylinder (sauce pans recorded grating the lid slowly) moves and pans around. Fantastic.
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    Default Re: NEW RELEASE: Jeff Wayne's WAR OF THE WORLDS [SACD]

    I have not listened to this since 1980. I though I might listen to it once or twice for the mix and then put it away for a while. Well the chances of listening to this once are a million to one I said.
    The mix is a great Quad mix as the center is not as important as the other 4. It was always well recorded so they sound is mostly very good. There are a few places where I want more bass though.
    I'm surprised I keep play this all over AGAIN~^/\/\/\*all over AGAIN~^/\/\/\*all over AGAIN~^/\/\/\*all over AGAIN~^/\/\/\*.

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    Default Re: NEW RELEASE: Jeff Wayne's WAR OF THE WORLDS [SACD]

    Got this in the mail today. I had never even heard of this title before, but i am very glad i bought a copy. I really liked it. I haven't voted yet because i am not sure if it is a 9 or a 10 yet, i will have to give it another listen or two before i vote. But i can surely say that the surround mix is GREAT.

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    Default Re: NEW RELEASE: Jeff Wayne's WAR OF THE WORLDS [SACD]

    After another listen through, i voted a 9. I really like the SACD, but it is not quite a 10 to me (very close, i must say). But the surround mix is a 10.

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    Default Re: NEW RELEASE: Jeff Wayne's WAR OF THE WORLDS [SACD]

    10.
    Only one disappointment : this is my first sacd withoun cd-text !!! I hope, last.

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    Default Re: NEW RELEASE: Jeff Wayne's WAR OF THE WORLDS [SACD]

    Quote Originally Posted by wapfu
    I give it an 8 simply cause I love the first disc but the second drags and isn't as lively as the first.
    i go along with wapfu on this one. much of the second disk is just as bombastic and boring as i remember it - - disk 1 remains in heavy rotation, however. and to echo what's been stated by many, great job on the mix throughout.
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    I voted this a 9. I agree with the comments about disc 1 being more accessible than disc 2. But the opening up of the sound stage in surround makes this an essential album.

    I am going to the live show at the Albert Hall next April and I only hope it is as special as this release. For those outside the UK, Jeff Wayne is taking WOTW on tour, a dress rehearsal and 12 (virtually sold out) shows. And, of course, Justin Hayward is appearing. I don't think it would work without him. I'm not sure if Jeff Wayne is planning to go to other parts of the world. If not it can only be because of the risk of bumping into martians! (He may have seen Spielberg's version!) There is to be a live DVD.

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    Default Re: Wayne, Jeff - WAR OF THE WORLDS [SACD]

    if anybody's thinking of getting this, yourmusic.com just posted it for $11.98. it doesn't specifically state it's the sacd, but i think it was only released that way, wasn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bugdaddy
    if anybody's thinking of getting this, yourmusic.com just posted it for $11.98. it doesn't specifically state it's the sacd, but i think it was only released that way, wasn't it?
    I am under the same impression that it was a single-inventory Hybrid SACD. However, I do have concerns that Yourmusic.com didn't make mention of an SACD layer. Usually they do: I'm thinking in terms of other single-inventory hybrids where they have always stated that the discs were SACDs---The Dylans, EJ's GBYBR Deluxe edition. Knowing that they do press some of their discs themselves it wouldn't shock me if they somehow just went with a regular CD. But... On the other hand, I actually ordered it yesterday hoping that it would indeed be the SACD (perhaps if I got it early enough I might even get one of the retail copies?). But then I checked my email today and Yourmusic told me it was on backorder. So I just cancelled it. Even if it were to have been an SACD, I just wasn't all that excited about this title. So I backed out. I'll be interested to learn exactly what kind of disc Yourmusic has, though, if anyone else decides to try for it.
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    Default Re: Wayne, Jeff - WAR OF THE WORLDS [SACD]

    yourmusic.com has a release date of 1978 listed, so that's not the SACD. :thumbsdow

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    Default Re: Wayne, Jeff - WAR OF THE WORLDS [SACD]

    This one is an absolute 10. The surround mix is incredible; it fully envelops you and places you within the story. This album is without a doubt the perfect application for surround-sound and the execution here is flawless. This has to be the best retro-fit surround mix I have ever heard. If I didn't know any better, I would say it was recorded as a surround-sound project (which it wasn't).

    Phenomenal!

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    I have more doubts about the record industry and its approach to Hi-Res. When this hybrid SACD came out last year it was advertised on TV (in the UK) and the "stunningly remixed in surround" statement was contained in all the blurb. However, when it was advertised again on TV for the Christmas market, it was just "stunningly remixed" and no mention of the surround sound. I don't understand why it was changed. Since the disc plays in a CD player anyway it would have been a great way to encourage those who buy it to think about hearing it in surround as well. The sticker is still on the sleeve, but will it mean much to most people? I wonder what Jeff Wayne thought about dropping the surround reference when he spent so many hours piecing it all together in 5.1??!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by omega4
    I have more doubts about the record industry and its approach to Hi-Res. When this hybrid SACD came out last year it was advertised on TV (in the UK) and the "stunningly remixed in surround" statement was contained in all the blurb. However, when it was advertised again on TV for the Christmas market, it was just "stunningly remixed" and no mention of the surround sound. I don't understand why it was changed.
    Perhaps because of the massive amounts of people buying it, putting the discs in standard CD players and then going "where the hell is the surround sound they advertised??"

    The sticker on the cover does not make it at ALL clear that you need a SACD player to hear the surround mix.

    We're educated about it all here. The general public is not, and this was a single-inventory release.

    Just last night I was having a conversation about SACD with a non-SACD friend, and pointed out that you can't play SACDs on a computer.

    "Yes you can," he said. "I bought War Of The Worlds and it's a SACD, and it plays fine on my computer!"

    I eventually got him understanding the concept of the Redbook CD layer. It wasn't an easy lesson.

    wonder what Jeff Wayne thought about dropping the surround reference when he spent so many hours piecing it all together in 5.1??!!
    Well, Gary Langan did many more hours on it than Jeff

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    I got the box set -- highly recommended, but what a weird mish-mash of content. The main two discs are SACD hybrids, the bonus material are redbook, and the DVD is...well, DVD. The SACDs sound superb.

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    I just received this SACD today. My only prior experience was listening to a special Halloween radio broadcast back in Wichita, KS around 1979. I thought it was a very fine work based on that and the SACD is excellent. An 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob R
    yourmusic.com has a release date of 1978 listed, so that's not the SACD. :thumbsdow

    Hi Kaz.
    What does that mean? The album was released in 1978 and I know for a fact the CD was not released in 1978 and yourmusic either has a CD release or an SACD hybrid. As far as I know all SACD discs shown on yourmusic show album release date, not SACD release date. Has anybody ordered this from yourmusic to see what it is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omega4
    I voted this a 9. I agree with the comments about disc 1 being more accessible than disc 2. But the opening up of the sound stage in surround makes this an essential album.

    I am going to the live show at the Albert Hall next April and I only hope it is as special as this release. For those outside the UK, Jeff Wayne is taking WOTW on tour, a dress rehearsal and 12 (virtually sold out) shows. And, of course, Justin Hayward is appearing. I don't think it would work without him. I'm not sure if Jeff Wayne is planning to go to other parts of the world. If not it can only be because of the risk of bumping into martians! (He may have seen Spielberg's version!) There is to be a live DVD.
    I went to the show in Cardiff last night and you're in for a real treat - great sound and all the performers are spot on - a real multi-media experience! Have fun but take plenty of money if you're going to buy any of the souvenirs.

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    Saw the show at the Royal Albert Hall last night. Funnily enough I felt a bit disappointed when it started because it seemed to be just the same as the album. I have always wondered about live performances so technically good that they are just like the album. However, after a few minutes I really started to appreciate the performances. And it is a full surround presentation with three effects speakers providing left, centre and right rear sounds. Great theatre too.

    Also it was great to see Justin Hayward again, as well as Chris Thompson who I've not seen live for twenty years or so ( Manfred Mann's Earthband, but never in surround.) A nice surprise was seeing Laurie Wisefield, ex-Home and Wishbone Ash. I had just played Home's second album to my son on Sunday telling him how good a guitarist LW is, and blow me he turns up at the gig two days later!

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    Quote Originally Posted by omega4
    Also it was great to see Justin Hayward again, as well as Chris Thompson who I've not seen live for twenty years or so ( Manfred Mann's Earthband, but never in surround.)
    I saw Chris Thompson last December when he played together with Manfred Mann at the Nokia Night of the Prom in Frankfurt/Germany. This concert series takes place each year and features some well-known pop/rock artists (mostly those whe were famous in the 70s or 80s ) along with a symphony orchastra and a large choir. It's always a lot of fun

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    Little behind the times here. I finally picked this one up. I have looked at it 3 or 4 times in the Best Buy rack but everytime I put it back......until today of course.......I had an extreme case of "New Disc-itis" and this one was just too accessible. I voted 9. I just had to take a point off for the cheesiness of some of the sections. I had this one on LP but haven't heard it for years. I don't remember it being this good. Must be the excellent surround mix. From this perspective it is as close as it comes to perfection and enveloping the listener in a soundscape. After hearing this once I would say that anyone that has SACD surround capability should get this. It's got those 70's analog dynamics. Anyway, I am glad that I finally got it and did not miss it entirely...which almost happened....

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    I have this on compact cassette two tapes, but Iím wondering as to which format this encoded in, will it playback on Dolby Digital? I would very much like to buy this classic on CD.


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