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    Default An ULTRA ULTRA ULTRA RARE 5.1 SACD

    I still don't understand a group like Can that remastered ALL their albums for SACD in STEREO only !!!!
    This sacd was release in 2004
    You are going to suffer to find a copy, unless you are VERY lucky of course
    Note : it is written "All tracks RENDERED into 5.1 surround sound from the original stereo master tapes by..."
    Tracks:
    1- "Spoon" 3:05 (from "Ege Bamyas"i)
    2- "You Doo Right" (edit) 8:25 (from "Monster Movie")
    3- "One more Night" 5:33 (from "Ege Bamyasi")
    4- "Half Past One" 4:30 (from "Landed")
    5- "Mushroom" 4:05 (from Ege Tago Mago)
    6- "Oh Yeah" 6:50 (from "Tago Mago")
    7- "Halleluwah" (edit) 9:33 (from "Tago Mago)"
    8- "Sing Swan Song" 4:33 (from "Ege Bamyasi")
    9- "Tango Whiskyman" 4:03 (from "Soundtracks")
    10- "Below this Level" 2:13 (from Ege "Rite Time")
    11- "Smoke" 3:15 (from "Flow Motion")
    12- "Get the Can" 2:03 (available only on Can DVD)
    13- "She Brings the Rain" 4:08 (from "Soundtracks")

    This is REALLY something VERY special !!!!!.!
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    Default Re: An ULTRA ULTRA ULTRA RARE 5.1 SACD

    That is rare, how does it sound?

    Chris

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    Default Re: An ULTRA ULTRA ULTRA RARE 5.1 SACD

    Quote Originally Posted by kvadro View Post
    ... "All tracks RENDERED into 5.1 surround sound from the original stereo master tapes by...........
    Don't tell Cai about this!

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    Default Re: An ULTRA ULTRA ULTRA RARE 5.1 SACD

    Quote Originally Posted by kvadro View Post
    I still don't understand a group like Can that remastered ALL their albums for SACD in STEREO only !!!!
    This sacd was release in 2004
    You are going to suffer to find a copy, unless you are VERY lucky of course
    Note : it is written "All tracks RENDERED into 5.1 surround sound from the original stereo master tapes by..."
    Tracks:
    1- "Spoon" 3:05 (from "Ege Bamyas"i)
    2- "You Doo Right" (edit) 8:25 (from "Monster Movie")
    3- "One more Night" 5:33 (from "Ege Bamyasi")
    4- "Half Past One" 4:30 (from "Landed")
    5- "Mushroom" 4:05 (from Ege Tago Mago)
    6- "Oh Yeah" 6:50 (from "Tago Mago")
    7- "Halleluwah" (edit) 9:33 (from "Tago Mago)"
    8- "Sing Swan Song" 4:33 (from "Ege Bamyasi")
    9- "Tango Whiskyman" 4:03 (from "Soundtracks")
    10- "Below this Level" 2:13 (from Ege "Rite Time")
    11- "Smoke" 3:15 (from "Flow Motion")
    12- "Get the Can" 2:03 (available only on Can DVD)
    13- "She Brings the Rain" 4:08 (from "Soundtracks")

    This is REALLY something VERY special !!!!!.!
    That's rare all right. I'd heard about but never seen a copy until now !

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    Default Re: An ULTRA ULTRA ULTRA RARE 5.1 SACD

    I'm gonna cry myself to sleep tonight....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kvadro View Post
    Note : it is written "All tracks RENDERED into 5.1 surround sound from the original stereo master tapes by..."
    Blergh. More fake surround processing. No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neon Kitten View Post
    Blergh. More fake surround processing. No thanks.
    I wondered about that but maybe it is just a poor choice of verbiage written by some marketing whiz who doesn't fully understand what they're talking about. I know that Can mixed a number of tracks in true surround from the multi-track tapes. The Can DVD has a number of the same songs listed on this Promo SACD in true surround. In fact, part of the DVD shows members of Can in the studio mixing the songs at a multi-track console. It is really cool to watch and listen as they fade in and out certain tracks.

    Be that as it may, I'm very curious about this SACD. I'm tempted to say that its bogus, but I think it would be very difficult to craft an SACD bootleg. I did some research and it is mentioned on a few Can discography websites (listed as "2004 surround promo").

    I remain suspect, but I'm inclined to say its the real deal. Drool, drool, drool!

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    Very weird if this is a legitimate release. Looks authentic, but smells like a boot. If not, the question would be: why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zabble View Post
    Very weird if this is a legitimate release. Looks authentic, but smells like a boot. If not, the question would be: why?
    I'm pretty sure it's legit. When the Can SACDs were first announced in 2004, a 5.1 SACD sampler was part of the release. See http://www.highfidelityreview.com/ne...umber=19852798

    The only question is why it was left as a press promo vs. the release to the public.

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    Wow! Interesting item! Would be more enticing if they were true surround mixes from the stems. Most of these are pre-Landed tracks, before they recorded in multi-channel. Actually the four songs that were mixed from the stems are on the Can DVD. Still an interesting release though!

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    I managed to snag this disc last week. The 5.1 sounds amazing. There is no way it is fake 5.1. My surround system can isolate each channel in turn and there is no feedback from other channels except for the second last track, "Get the Can" which was mastered from a Can DVD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carrolls View Post
    I managed to snag this disc last week. The 5.1 sounds amazing. There is no way it is fake 5.1. My surround system can isolate each channel in turn and there is no feedback from other channels except for the second last track, "Get the Can" which was mastered from a Can DVD.
    Wow! Nice snag! I'm still hunting for this one.

    But I still don't understand how the mix on the pre-Landed tracks can be true 5.1. As I understand it, Can recorded in a mix-down state up until this album. There are no stems to work with.

    Is there a noticeable difference between the earlier tracks the four I mentioned above (which are true surround)?

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    Sorry, just realized I never mentioned the four by name. They are:

    Smoke
    Half Past One
    Below This Level
    Get The Can

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvahalo007 View Post
    Wow! Nice snag! I'm still hunting for this one.

    But I still don't understand how the mix on the pre-Landed tracks can be true 5.1. As I understand it, Can recorded in a mix-down state up until this album. There are no stems to work with.

    Is there a noticeable difference between the earlier tracks the four I mentioned above (which are true surround)?
    There is actually a noticable improvement in quality in the tracks you mentioned. But there is a believable 5.1 effect throughout the album.
    About the SACD itself, I got it for $160 from a German guy called "toko42" on ebay.
    I snapped it up because the only ones I have seen on eBay in the last year were going for upwards of $1000.
    Here is the one I bought:
    http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI....:X:AAQ:DE:1123

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