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    That is an amazing story.

    The auto recycler in me says try to determine if a 2010 head unit might work in your 2009!
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    Add the current Lincoln SUV to the list. My friends daughter's plays DVD-Audio and I believe DTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timbre4 View Post
    The auto recycler in me says try to determine if a 2010 head unit might work in your 2009!
    Harman told me it's the amp that handles the processing of the PCM stream, so I think it's the amp that needs to be swapped. As long as the head unit/amp interconnect is the same with the same pinout, that might work.

    If you're considering a Lexus with the ML, you should know that the systems don't offer very much in the way of equalization -- just your basic bass, mid and treble controls. Those controls did nothing to correct a huge hump in the FR centered at 250 Hz in my ES that made the system seem designed more for movie soundtracks than music! (I had to re-EQ the front right and left channels when converting DVD-As to DTS-CDs to make them listenable.)

    If you're looking at Lexus, you should carefully audition the ML in the model you want with DVD-As you know well -- when I was investigating my ML's problem, I got a chance to audition a few 2010 models, and I recall noticing differences in the sonic character of the IS, ES and the LX.

    Moving on, I'm considering replacing the ES this year, but there aren't very many rides that appeal to me that have an option for factory surround. I wonder if it's useful to just focus on getting the car I want and going for an aftermarket solution. Any opinions on that?

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    There is supposed to be a new, totally redesigned Acura RL coming for 2013. Don't know much about it. I hope they keep DVD-Audio in the audio system in 2013 Acura's.
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    There is also a 2013 Acura ILX entry level coming out very soon and its supposed to have the ELS as a option.
    I am curious if they will have the ELS on the Hybrid model as it doesn't give those details yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterzach View Post
    There is also a 2013 Acura ILX entry level coming out very soon and its supposed to have the ELS as a option.
    I am curious if they will have the ELS on the Hybrid model as it doesn't give those details yet.
    With the ILX now showing as available on Acura's site, you can indeed get an ILX Hybrid with Technology Package that has the ELS surround system. This is also available in the regular gasoline automatic model as well.

    http://www.acura.com/modellanding.aspx?model=ilx
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    Quick question:
    Does the ELS cut off the audio too while playing a DVD (in motion)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiburb View Post
    Quick question:
    Does the ELS cut off the audio too while playing a DVD (in motion)?
    The ELS does not play DVDs.

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    Wrong thread.
    Last edited by Pibroch; 04-01-2013 at 06:31 PM.

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    Uh-oh, now I'm in trouble.
    My new Hyundai Equus arrives this Friday, and I've been studying the owners manual (an app for iPad) for the last couple days. It seems Lexicon has changed things up for the 2014 model:
    In addition to DVD-A, it now plays SACD!!!!
    Like I haven't spent enough money already.

    On the downside, I lose the 6 disc changer to a single slot.

    One more thing:
    If the addition of SACD is in my car, it'll probably be in the 2104 Genesis too.

    Are there any other cars that offer both?

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    Wow, 17 speakers & SACD, my TL is starting to sound abit shabby. Please give a detailed review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiburb View Post
    Uh-oh, now I'm in trouble.
    My new Hyundai Equus arrives this Friday, and I've been studying the owners manual (an app for iPad) for the last couple days. It seems Lexicon has changed things up for the 2014 model:
    In addition to DVD-A, it now plays SACD!!!!
    Like I haven't spent enough money already.

    On the downside, I lose the 6 disc changer to a single slot.

    One more thing:
    If the addition of SACD is in my car, it'll probably be in the 2104 Genesis too.

    Are there any other cars that offer both?
    HOLY CRAP!! That's awesome.

    Please give us a full report when you get it. That's really incredible news.

    Hyundai.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonUrban View Post
    HOLY CRAP!! That's awesome.

    Please give us a full report when you get it. That's really incredible news.

    Hyundai.jpg
    Will do, but a basic newb question:
    Is it pronounced SAC-D as I've been doing mentally since I got here? Or is it S-A-C-D?
    Never had to know before now.
    Now off to the HiRez polls to figure out which to buy first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiburb View Post
    Is it pronounced SAC-D as I've been doing mentally since I got here? Or is it S-A-C-D?
    SAC-D? That sounds obscene.

    Most people say S-A-C-D which is short for Super Audio CD (compact disc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Q8 View Post
    SAC-D? That sounds obscene.

    Most people say S-A-C-D which is short for Super Audio CD (compact disc).
    Thank you. I learn something new every day.
    And will hopefully remember it tomorrow.

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    I just read the fine print:
    It plays SACD Hybrid, and only the CD layer.
    (Screen shot sent to Mr.Urban)
    Not knowing the format, don't know if that's a "meh" or "ok".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiburb View Post
    I just read the fine print:
    It plays SACD Hybrid, and only the CD layer.
    (Screen shot sent to Mr.Urban)
    Not knowing the format, don't know if that's a "meh" or "ok".
    Thats like saying its a DVD-A player but won't play content in the AUDIO_TS folder.

    In other words its just a CD player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LizardKing View Post
    Thats like saying its a DVD-A player but won't play content in the AUDIO_TS folder.

    In other words its just a CD player.
    Then I'm sorry for the false alarm. See how little I know? Just got excited because the 2011 made no mention of SACD at all.
    Btw, I didn't send Mr.Urban the screen shot of supported. Can't find an email.

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    Well, that just saved me $40K!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elroy View Post
    Well, that just saved me $40K!
    I just convert my SAC-D's to dvd-audio format. Problem solved

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    Quote Originally Posted by elshagon View Post
    I just convert my SAC-D's to dvd-audio format. Problem solved
    Me too...!!

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    I just had a very nice surprise. My Audi A5 3.0 TDI Quatro 2009 with MMI plus (Multi Media Interface Plus) plays DVD-Audio DTS 5.1 discs!

    [EDIT: After more testing next morning it seems this will only play from 'VIDEO_TS' folder. It does play DTS 5.1 from the VOB files]

    I just whacked XTC - Nonsuch in and after a small wait, bang the main DVD-A menu comes up on the 7" screen. I select Audio format, then DTS 5.1 96/24. Back to first song. It plays in 5.1! (I also have the Bang & Olefsen 10 speaker system upgrade, so this sounds pretty damn good!)

    Toot, toot!

    Media supported:
    MP3 from CD, SD Card, DVD Audio/video, built-in Hard disk, DVD drive, iPod (MDI), USB, Aux-in, Bluetooth streaming available through aftermarket solutions

    Audi Models supported:
    A1 Week 34/2010>
    A1 Sportback Week 45/2011>
    A4 Lim.+ Avant Week 22/2009>
    A4 Allroad Week 22/2010>
    A5 Week 36/2008>
    A5 Sportback+Cabriolet Week 45/2008>
    A6 (4F) Week 41/2008>
    A6 (4G)
    A7
    A8(4E) Week 36/2008>
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    Q5 2009>2012
    Q5 Hybrid Week 26/2011>2012
    Q7 Week 22/2009>

    Basically all current and Audi models back to those dates above with latest MMI add-on & B&O sound upgrade will support 5.1 audio on DVD-A and DVD-V, although probably only DTS (not MLP) based on what I've read (no mention of MLP, nothing explicitly says 'no MLP' - but there was nothing in my manual saying DTS, DVD-A or 5.1 either...)

    I will try a few more DVD-As tomorrow and post a couple of photos.

    I discovered this while trying some multi-channel AAC files today. Then while searching for 5.1 support on latest model Audis came across the info on MMI media support and models with DVD above....
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    If it's showing the DTS 96/24 choice, it's not playing DVD-A. It's playing the DVD-V level of the disc. No hi-rez.

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    Did some more testing this morning and Larry is right, the car DVD player is playing the video track (DTS 5.1). I've added an edit to last nights post above.

    So far I've established:
    DVD-Audio with MLP only will not play (e.g. Crowded House - Self Titled)
    DVD-Audio with DTS-V DTS will play (e.g. Porcupine Tree - FOBP)

    Is there a DVD-A that does not have MLP?

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    Nope, it wouldn't be DVD-A then.
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