Give me surround or give me silence!
Self Installed in my PT Cruiser and another in my RAV4.
SACD multi-channel/Dolby Digital multi-channel/DTS multi-channel; Dolby Pro Logic II multi-channel/ Stereo MP3/WMA/High Resolution PCM and 16 bit PCM.
DVD-Video [with 2 video outputs]; Karaoke.
Sports a front analog stereo input and an optional iPod Input/charger/control.
Superb clear power with well designed multi-band EQ adjustments.
Superb AM and FM section with option of adding an alternative $50 digital radio tuner.
This is by far the best unit I have ever had in a vehicle and would recommend it highly. Both cost me about $200.00 each; you can't beat that. The only thing missing is the ability to play the high resolution multi-channel content on DVD-A's and DualDisk's; but the DD or DTS tracks on those disks sound very good.
I now drive around with a huge smile on my face.
I apologize if this is not the correct place for this question, but I have been looking into getting a an Acura TL do to it's ability to play surround sound encoded discs. I have more dts encoded discs than DVD-A discs and happened to take several dts discs with me to the acura dealer to do a "test-drive". The dts discs were rejected by the els system. When I asked the guy who was supposed to be the expert for questions of that type, he told me that acura only plays dvd-audio discs, not dts discs. I didn't buy this explanation, but since my discs did not play, I was wondering if anyone else has similar issues with their acura tl? The discs I brought with me were: 1) George Benson & Al Jarreau "Giving It Up" from Monster Disc, a THX dts superdisc, and 2) Genesis Live at Wembley Stadium which is admittedly a DVD video disc with dts encoded sound track. Is there a reason that both of these discs are not in a readable format? Do you need to only use certain DTS discs and if so, what should you look for when bringing one to play on the Acura system?
You can only play DTS encoded cds or DVD-A discs in the TL. Even though they have DTS tracks, the discs you brought with you are DVD-V discs and are not playable.
Also, the TL I had was fussy about some of the homebrew DTS discs available. Sometimes they would "chirp" occasionally in the car while in my home player they would play fine.
I think I've gone backwards in regards to this question.
My "new" car (1966 Volvo 122s) only has an AM radio, a single speaker up behind the dash.
I am building an echo chamber for a rear speaker though... Heh heh heh...
Boss Jock in training
Yup! The Monster Disc is really a DVD-V, as is your other disc. You need a "DTS MUSIC DISC", which is really a DTS encoded CD (like Band on the Run, etc). Unfortunately, the ELS system cannot access the audio tracks on DVD-V's (which is a damn shame). I believe that the Lexus and other cars have this ability.
Hey, I traded in my 2006 TL for a 2009 TSX with Technology Package. So, this is what I have as far as audio:
ELS Surround Sound System - 10 speakers with an 8-inch subwoofer, 415 watt amp, 6-disc changer that plays DVD-Audio, DTS-CD, CDs with MP3s and WMAs, USB interface for iPods or flash drives, Bluetooth Audio, XM Satellite Radio, Dolby Pro-Logic II.
There's a lot of feature now that my old TL doesn't have. The best part is the ability to use my iPod and play it with DPLII. It's pretty sweet. Doesn't beat DVD-A but it's the next best thing.
How do you like the car besides the sound system??? If that's not too far off topic...
My 2006 TL had a 3.2L 258HP SOHC V6 with a 5-speed automatic. This engine was sublime. If gas prices weren't so high it wouldn't be so bad.
My new 2009 TSX has a 2.4L 201HP DOHC i-VTEC inline-4 with a 5-speed automatic. The shifting is rougher on this engine. But, it's a little peppier off the idle. Although my manual says I need to use an octane of 91 or higher, the dealer says because it's a 4-cyl. I can get by with 87 octane.
Although the cabin space is smaller than the TL, there's more room in this latest TSX compared with older TSX models. I hardly fill the car with people anyway. There's basically less leg room for the rear seats compared with the TL. But, it still feels roomy to me. I mostly drive alone. Just as long as you don't have to drive basketball players every day, I think it's fine. And because the size of the TSX is smaller than the TL, there's a better turning ratio. I had a hard time making wide turns and quick cuts with the TL. It was kind of like driving a mini-tank.
Trunk space is pretty good considering it's smaller than the TL. One thing I love about the trunk now is that it has a better system to catch rain that collected on the top of the trunk. With the TL, if I opened my trunk too fast, the water would go in.
Another thing that came with the Technology package is a GPS Navigation system which I absolutely LOVE. Even on a small island like the one I live on, it's still very useful. If I were on the mainland, I could also get real-time traffic and weather reports (it's not available in Hawaii because it goes through XM Satellite). And it also comes with a rear camera when you shift into reverse. It's a great safety feature.
If you have any other questions about the TSX, feel free to ask!
Thanks for the input!
Sounds like a good car...I have an '04 TL with Nav and love the sound system, but it has over 100K miles and I'm starting to think about the next car. Like you, I was thinking maybe the TSX would save some money on gas, but I wasn't sure what kind of comedown it would be.
Back on topic, any differences in the DVD-A sound between the two?
I bought my new surround car audio just last week so I thought I can add my system
Car system: JVC KD-AVX33
What year, make and model of car: 2000 Ford Focus Zetec 1.8 TDDi Hatchback
Did you install it yourself: Of course but I'm still upgrading my speakers
What surround formats can you play: DVD-A/V, DTS 96/24, Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro-Logic II
How would you rate the system, and would you recommend it to others: since my speakers are not the best I couldn't rate it completely, but speaking of the JVC it's wonderful even if it's only 1-din and with a 3.5" lcd monitor.
The menu is a bit tricky, but I'm used to Windows XP so what the heck
Car system: Sony MEX-DV2000
What year, make and model of car: 2003 Porsche Boxster S
Did you install it yourself: No, professionally installed
What surround formats can you play: SACD, DVD-V, DTS , Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro-Logic II
How would you rate the system, and would you recommend it to others: Sounds great! I just had it installed yesterday and I'm having an issue where the unit powers off randomly, so I have to bring it back to the installer today, but otherwise I love it. Not expecting much with the top down though.
ROLL CALL: Who has surround sound in their car(s)?
if you have a car with a factory installed surround system or one you installed yourself (DVD-Audio, SACD, DTS, Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro Logic II, Q8 or something else), please respond to this thread and tell us:
What year, make and model of car: 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Did you install it yourself (if not factory installed): I had it installed..."it" being the Sherwood DTS that was so hot, some years ago. When it smoked the factory speakers, I replaced them with Pioneers.
What surround formats can you play: DTS, Circle Surround
How would you rate the system, and would you recommend it to others: until very recently, it's been a gas. Always a favorite of my shade-tree mechanic: on a couple of occasions I found the Jeep on his lift, with four doors open and my compilation disc blaring. The head unit has failed...ejecting discs and, with nothing loaded, attempting to play one...switching to 'play' from FM, and trying to 'play' when the unit is technically "off." I would appreciate comment on a cheap........that sounds so....let's say "an adequate but basic" replacement unit. SWEET little decoder.
1977 Lincoln Continental Mark V--factory unit--car has 7k original miles--sounds great !
Hi Guys, I'm brand new to this forum. I actually found it on AcuraZine.com. On New Years Day I bought a 2007 Acura TL Type S (Silver) with the ELS System in it. I have about 80-90 DVD Audio/DTS discs at home. It's great to now be able to use them in the car too!
What year, make and model of car: 2002 Honda Accord DX (the no-frills model)
Did you install it yourself (if not factory installed): Local installers, my choice of head unit and speakers, their choice of amps.
What surround formats can you play: DVD-Video, DTS, SACD, DPLII
How would you rate the system, and would you recommend it to others: I have a Sony MEX-DEV2000 feeding three amps: a bridged Denon for an Alpine center speaker mounted in the 2nd DIN space; a Kenwood powering a basic JL Audio 10" sub, and an Alpine feeding four Boston Acoustics. I would recommend it, but if I had to do it over, I'd have selected an Alpine Theater Amp because it would have eliminated the need for a separate center channel amp.
Year, make, model: 2009 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 w/Tech
Factory installed: Lexicon Logic 7 Discrete Sound System (7.1 channel) with SEVENTEEN!! speakers.
Formats: CD, DVD-Audio, DVD-Video, MP3, Video CD and compatible formats, including PCM, Dolby® Digital, and DTS®.
Link to speaker placement diagram: http://hyundai.lexicon.com/system.aspx
Btw, until having this car with the Lexicon I had never heard of DVD-A. Then I bought the Love disc...
After hearing mine, my dealer now uses it to demo the sound system.
Great site, thanks for being here!
Welcome to the forum!!! Once you get hooked on surround sound it's hard to go back, like popping the pill on the Matrix....I'm jealous about the Hyundai Genesis. I've been eyeing that one myself, hope to get one sometime this year. Please give us a review of the speaker system and it's surround capabilities.
One thing I DO know is that you're right: I find it difficult to listen to anything other than surround in my Genesis. Sigh.
Oops, never saw this thread. Yes, i've had mobile DVD-Audio (and DTS) since owning the Infiniti M35X three years ago. As a longtime fan of mch hirez (hundreds of SACD's/DVD-A's, own my ninth SACD and/or universal player) it played huge into my automobile selection process. My lease runs out in 120 days. I will see whats out there but assume I'm still "stuck" (life is tough) with Infiniti, Acura with true DVD-Audio or SACD factory-installed, ?? Any others? Thx