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    Default Peter Gabriel 'Play Video" and Dts problem on Denon Receivers

    I saw this posted at another website and was wondering if anyone else had this problem and if they know if there ever was a corrected copy that came out. I kept hearing how people were just saying how awesome the Dts was for this release and I would try it on my Denon 3805 receiver and Denon 3910 Dvd player and the sound was so quiet and I did accidently turn up the volume on Dts and then switch to DD and thought I was going to blow up my Speakers.. Here is the problem sorry if this has been explained here already before:

    "DTS audio on PLAY DVD

    Since the release of the PLAY DVD we have become aware of an issue with the DTS soundtrack on the latest generation of surround amplifiers.

    PLAY is the first disc produced using a new DTS encoder and it seems that the version we used has set a flag within the DTS audio stream that can cause a 30db reduction in volume.

    We have only experienced the issue on a Denon AVR-3805 amplifier (kindly lent to us by Denon UK), although it may be more widespread as new audio decoder chips reach the consumer market in other products. Reading through our DVD forum, our experience would tie in with the comments of people on the boards . A 30db volume reduction is very noticeable, so the DTS audio heard through these amplifiers is going to be both disappointing, and give a you big shock if you turn it up and then flip back to one of the other audio tracks, or navigate back to a menu.

    Only the latest amplifiers are reading the 'Dialogue Normalization" setting in the DTS audio which is causing the volume reduction. Other amplifiers are simply ignoring this information, so during the product development and testing, and to most consumers the DTS was and still is the best sounding audio on the disc.

    We are currently working with DTS, Warner Vision and Denon to find a solution, and will keep you posted.

    Please let us know if you have experienced this problem on any other equipment."

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    Default Re: Peter Gabriel 'Play Video" and Dts problem on Denon Receivers

    Did they ever fix this? I have the 1909 and it has the same issue with the DTS.

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    I just got a Marantz sr6003 Receiver to go along with Oppo BR player and my marantz has same problem with this title.
    I'm surprised that not more people have problems as I can't be the only foolish person buying new equipment.
    When I get around to it will try to do some more digging or see if Rhino/Wea knows if a replacement is available.
    If anyone else has some update on this that would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterzach View Post
    I saw this posted at another website and was wondering if anyone else had this problem and if they know if there ever was a corrected copy that came out. I kept hearing how people were just saying how awesome the Dts was for this release and I would try it on my Denon 3805 receiver and Denon 3910 Dvd player and the sound was so quiet and I did accidently turn up the volume on Dts and then switch to DD and thought I was going to blow up my Speakers.. Here is the problem sorry if this has been explained here already before:

    ...

    Please let us know if you have experienced this problem on any other equipment."
    Interestingly this disc works fine with a DENON AVR-5803A hooked up with a DENON DVD-5910CI. So, it should be possible for DENON to come up with a solution to the problem.

    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by alk3997 View Post
    Interestingly this disc works fine with a DENON AVR-5803A hooked up with a DENON DVD-5910CI. So, it should be possible for DENON to come up with a solution to the problem.

    Andy
    The problem is not equipment related, rather an error on the disc which the producer of the disc has admitted.

    Still, interesting if there are any discs released without this error, and if so - how do I recognize them??

    //Uffe

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    Hey guys, I was wondering if anybody else has information on this? The exact same thing happens on my receiver (Samsung HW-C560S). As another poster above pointed out, we can't be the only ones foolish enough to buy recent receivers. It's truly odd. Make no mistake, the DD track sounds surprisingly good - clear, punchy and dynamic, I'm very impressed and it won't kill me to listen to it instead of the DTS. But hey, the DTS is there for a reason! And as it stands, it's unusable for me.

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    In fact, does anybody out there have the corrected re-release of the DVD? If so, can you create and upload an ISO of it? Since I have the original DVD lying on the desk in front of me as I'm typing this, I don't think I'm asking for anything illegal here - if I am, please edit/delete this post. Hope you guys can help me :-)

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    I am still using mine as a coaster for my Makers Mark glass.

    Let me know if a solution develops.

    This would be one fine DTS demo.
    Frantic_Audioholic

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    Great news! The corrected DVD's Video_TS folder is out there as a torrent. PM me if you want the link.

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