Blu-Ray profile 3.0 (Audio only)

[Quadro-Action]

Now we will have in a short time the first Blu Ray's only for audio (sound). Neil Young will offer now all of his (re)productions with Blu Ray audio. I think unfortunately only with stereo like his DVD-Audio's. A norwegian Label has announced 2 classic production, which shall be offered also in Blu Ray audio manner. They take the new sound formats Dolby HD and DTS Master. I am awaiting, that also other firms or Labels will take the Blu Ray (only) for music to have the highest quality. So I think, also music surround will have a rebirth, because with one system the consumers is not further on afraid to take the wrong system. When the blu ray will have in future some more acceptance on the market, more firms will and should offer the only audio version of Blu Ray together with the surround mixdown. Let's have hope.

[kfbkfb]

Regarding a Phantom Center Front "Channel"
in Surround Sound (Quadraphonic) Systems:

This post (and some of the subsequent posts)
explains why a phantom center front "channel"
is perfectly satisfactory.

http://www.quadraphonicquad.com/foru...&postcount=242

I haven't found much about the NQRC tests
(for free) on the Internet or Usenet.

Kirk Bayne

[Chris Gerhard]

Now we will have in a short time the first Blu Ray's only for audio (sound). Neil Young will offer now all of his (re)productions with Blu Ray audio. I think unfortunately only with stereo like his DVD-Audio's. A norwegian Label has announced 2 classic production, which shall be offered also in Blu Ray audio manner. They take the new sound formats Dolby HD and DTS Master. I am awaiting, that also other firms or Labels will take the Blu Ray (only) for music to have the highest quality. So I think, also music surround will have a rebirth, because with one system the consumers is not further on afraid to take the wrong system. When the blu ray will have in future some more acceptance on the market, more firms will and should offer the only audio version of Blu Ray together with the surround mixdown. Let's have hope.

I have been hopeful that a market will exist for Blu-ray audio releases since I first saw mention of the product over three years ago. It really is the first of the better than CD formats to get mainstream news media mention on a regular basis and the first to have a chance with bsically no consumer confusion about which format to support now that HD DVD is gone and SACD and DVD-A relegated to the tiniest of niche formats. There should be over 20 million Blu-ray players in consumer's hands worldwide really soon, so it has a start and has the music companies attention. If we want high quality audio on a pre-recorded 5" shiny disc format, it is our last and best chance. The market may move away from media like this but I am unwilling or unable to get with the downloading craze so I am delighted it is being a chance.

It is good to see another optimistic post regarding Blu-ray potential here at this forum.

Chris

[Audi A3]

I have been hopeful that a market will exist for Blu-ray audio releases since I first saw mention of the product over three years ago. It really is the first of the better than CD formats to get mainstream news media mention on a regular basis and the first to have a chance with bsically no consumer confusion about which format to support now that HD DVD is gone and SACD and DVD-A relegated to the tiniest of niche formats. There should be over 20 million Blu-ray players in consumer's hands worldwide really soon, so it has a start and has the music companies attention. If we want high quality audio on a pre-recorded 5" shiny disc format, it is our last and best chance. The market may move away from media like this but I am unwilling or unable to get with the downloading craze so I am delighted it is being a chance.

It is good to see another optimistic post regarding Blu-ray potential here at this forum.

Chris

Hi Chris - you're not alone.

Blu-Ray as a video and audio format has a chance - the future might be interesting.

I think it's sad that a forum like this in generel is very pessimistic about blu-ray (and sony).

[PossumPete]

As more and more people upgrade their movie systems to 5.1 or 7.1, it's up to us to let them borrow a disc of surround sound music. You all know what it's like to hear your favorite album in MC for the first time. I remember letting a friend borrow the Metallica DVD-A and watching them come in the next day with the "WOW" look on their face. We owe it to the format to infiltrate the minds (and ears) of the uninitiated. They'll thank us and, hopefully, we'll be able to convince the companies to provide more format to meet the increased demand that we'll create.

My new slogan: "Share a Disc - Create Demand"

[Quadro-Action]

ok, all of us don't know the future and also the same with those by Blu Ray Audio. But I am afraid, that this will be not a big success, when they work even now with 7.1 channels. Only a minority of home cinema fans will install this - an a till now stereo-listener will get panic by the idea to have placing 8 loudspeakers insted only 2 in his room. And also the majority of the home cinema fans has unfortunately the same old-fashioned views of surround sound with music like the often to read viewes of borung purists. This was the result by an inquiry in another forum - may be again here? So it was a big mistake by the music firms, that home-cinema would be a solid basis for introducing the DVD-Audio - hoping so for a big success. Beneth the deterence of the system battle this was the other 50% of the mistake.

So I am further on for a quadraphonic working system by an actual or coming (Blu Ray) surround technic. Quadraphony is a logic further development of stereo. 5.1 or 7.1 Audio is cinema based music. But music is not real cinema - only give some phantasia impressions and pictures by listening music in the brain of the listener - not on a screen. So a 4-channel disc will make more sence by stereo-listeners together with the recommendation, that they need only a second stereo hardware-system. And a 4channel disc will of course run also with a 7.1 system - with 3(4) silent speakers. On the other hand - around nearly 100% of our quadraphonic fans here in our circle are listening also video-surround with "only" 4 channels. But don't misunderstand me: Each may be free to make that, what he prefers - also till a 7.1. system. But for an succes an the market we can't see only our own taste, but more that, what could be interesting for the "masses". And the masses will have things, which works easy (look for excample to the bad "cinema on the phone display" or ipod etc.)

So I am afraid, that a new start of audio surround with 7.1 will be again a false start. That are my doubts. Of course, if there are 7.1 audio surround Blu Ray's on the market, I will buy them too and make a downmix self to 4.0 as also now with 5.1. So each may have his own prefered technic and sound.
Important, that the music industry will start with those audio surround activities an the new Blu Ray level. I think, this will come, when this record will get the majority on the market or some more than today.

Dietrich

[Frantic]

As more and more people upgrade their movie systems to 5.1 or 7.1, it's up to us to let them borrow a disc of surround sound music. You all know what it's like to hear your favorite album in MC for the first time. I remember letting a friend borrow the Metallica DVD-A and watching them come in the next day with the "WOW" look on their face. We owe it to the format to infiltrate the minds (and ears) of the uninitiated. They'll thank us and, hopefully, we'll be able to convince the companies to provide more format to meet the increased demand that we'll create.

My new slogan: "Share a Disc - Create Demand"

My brother, I agree 100%.
I have been pushing the MC format for many years and I can count on one hand those that were influenced enough to take the plunge. I use that term intentionally as I compare us to those that own a lavish swimming pool. Many friends want to come over and experience it, but have little desire to install one of their own. We are a small niche and probably will remain that way. That is OK though as it makes us all very special!