Air 10 000 Hz Legend (20th Anniversary with 5.1 & Dolby Atmos Mixes)

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madship

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Mine arrived yesterday, from Bull Moose, they may my go to from now on. Great prices and arrived ahead of release date.

Other than some issues with Apple's Music app, I am enjoying the album a lot. Never heard of the group before this was released.

The weird thing is I will most likely be listening to the Atmos version. I have a 5.1 system with most likely no understanding of Atmos, but the Atmos version is much better that the 5.1. It is so much better the 5.1 might as well be mono.
 

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This one is a winner. While this isn't my favorite Air album by far, this Atmos mix is killer. Someone above compared its aggressiveness to the recent Yello mix, and while I agree, this one is less "gimmicky" in my opinion. I don't have graphs to confirm, but at times it sounded like there were backing vocals and effects discrete to the height speakers only. Make sure you like the tunes before you order, but again, the mix is fantastic.
 

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I may have to order this! Sometimes a mediocre album(when in stereo) can be highly enjoyable in surround.
I think the limitation of stereo cannot adequately support the artistic intent of this album. I have never listened to the stereo mix and I reckon I probably wouldn’t have enjoyed it too.- as others have commented pre-release. My advice to others is listen to the Atmos mix first to enable a judgment whether you like the material or not.
 

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The weird thing is I will most likely be listening to the Atmos version. I have a 5.1 system with most likely no understanding of Atmos, but the Atmos version is much better that the 5.1. It is so much better the 5.1 might as well be mono.
Interesting - for me, the Atmos mix on Apple Music played through my 5.1 system sounds nearly identical to the DTS-HD 5.1 track on the disc. I suspect the 5.1 mix is really just a fold-down of the Atmos, as was done for Mr. Big's Lean Into It. In any case, the 5.1 sounds great with lots of discrete elements in the rears and center. The panning synth in "The Vagabond" moves all around the room, just as I'd hoped. I'm really glad this one got released on disc, with a dedicated 5.1 option to boot.
 

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Interesting - for me, the Atmos mix on Apple Music played through my 5.1 system sounds nearly identical to the DTS-HD 5.1 track on the disc. I suspect the 5.1 mix is really just a fold-down of the Atmos, as was done for Mr. Big's Lean Into It. In any case, the 5.1 sounds great with lots of discrete elements in the rears and center. The panning synth in "The Vagabond" moves all around the room, just as I'd hoped. I'm really glad this one got released on disc, with a dedicated 5.1 option to boot.
I think I found the reason the versions sounded so different to me. I was using DVD-AE to transcode directly into ALAC. From what I could find, while FLAC always has the same channel assignments (L-R-C-LFE- LS-RS), ALAC has different options available. DVD-AE was coding R-C-L-RS-LFE-LS-RS, which did not agree with what Apple's Music App was expecting. There were occasions where some titles sounded strange, but I hadn't listened to the original recently enough to figure it out. Listening to the Nothing But the Truth rip the same day as the disc, made it very obvious what was wrong.

I've spent the last week re-ripping everything I added to the NAS in 2021, when I discovered the ALAC option in DVD-AE. That is more fun than humans should be aloud to have.

When I get back to this disc, I'll let you whether I still think the Atmos is better mix.

Below are the waveforms for Open Car from Arriving Somewhere. The left is the ALAC transcode, the right is the FLAC. Both done by DVD-AE.

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madship

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My issue with the transcode was definitely the difference. The 5.1 mix is now much better than it was, The Atmos mix, folded down to 5.1 on my system is pretty much the same as the 5.1 mix. Either way, 5.1 or Atmos, I like when these songs pop up in the shuffle.
 

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Good to see this Atmos mix is available on Tidal. I don't think I would purchase this, but I will definitely stream it!
Any tracks in particular that work well with Atmos? I've read in a post above about The Vagabond.
 
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