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I guess this is buried in this thread somewhere (I'm almost positive but a search gives up nothing??) but Bon Jovi Slippery When Wet has two Atmos songs (which are the two best IMO):

You Give Love a Bad Name

Wanted Dead or Alive


Wow, is it just me, or does the ATMOS mix sound REALLY different than the original? It’s very weak sounding, where are the drums?
 

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Amy Winehouse's Back to Black is now here in Atmos. Too late to listen, unfortunately.
Will it be less dynamically crushed than the CD version?
On headphones it sounds a bit harsh...
Listening to this in 5.1 on Tidal. There’s nothing in the center channel. ???

thinking something is screwy with my account since I had to start up a new Amazon profile which has messed with all my subscriptions through my Firestick. Ahh—technology!
 
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This is really good! Jim Carrey as the voice of the DJ. Interesting concept.
like Tony Peluso on the Carpenters Now & Then?

yup, never been done??

perhaps an homage, perhaps a nod, perhaps an ignorant outright blatant theft steal??

the point is, give credit where credit is due
 

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like Tony Peluso on the Carpenters Now & Then?

yup, never been done??

perhaps an homage, perhaps a nod, perhaps an ignorant outright blatant theft steal??

the point is, give credit where credit is due
Or perhaps someone else came up with the same idea 45 years later who never listened to the Carpenters’ album? :unsure:
 

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Or perhaps someone else came up with the same idea 45 years later who never listened to the Carpenters’ album? :unsure:
but I would never give credence or credit to anyone who hasn't listened to all the Carpenters albums. This isn't a given?

step one, first day, like kindergarten? I mean, if you're gonna call yourself any kind of musician, singer?
 

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but I would never give credence or credit to anyone who hasn't listened to all the Carpenters albums. This isn't a given?

step one, first day, like kindergarten? I mean, if you're gonna call yourself any kind of musician, singer, soulmate?
:giggle:
 

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like Tony Peluso on the Carpenters Now & Then?

yup, never been done??

perhaps an homage, perhaps a nod, perhaps an ignorant outright blatant theft steal??

the point is, give credit where credit is due
I’m not sure what you mean. Did someone claim it to be an original idea? I’m not familiar with the Carpenters album but I know Roger Waters did something similar on Radio KAOS. I’m sure there are must be other examples as well.
 

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Didn’t Wolfman Jack do something similar on the American Graffiti soundtrack album a couple of years before? I hope the Carpenters gave credit where credit was due ;)
 

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Interesting concept.
I’m not sure what you mean. Did someone claim it to be an original idea? I’m not familiar with the Carpenters album but I know Roger Waters did something similar on Radio KAOS. I’m sure there are must be other examples as well.
Whats does concept mean?
1 : something conceived in the mind : thought, notion. 2 : an abstract or generic idea generalized from particular instances the basic concepts of psychology the concept of gravity.
Concept Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster Definition of CONCEPT
It's not conceived in someone's mind if it has already been conceived in someone else's mind and published before because the standing argument is that the initial "seed" has "influenced" the current concept, so it's a derivation at best, which is not copyrightable.

Do you not understand the concept of Patents, Copyrights, Trademarks?
 
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Didn’t Wolfman Jack do something similar on the American Graffiti soundtrack album a couple of years before? I hope the Carpenters gave credit where credit was due ;)
but the Wolfman was an actual DJ?

everyone else in this thread are Band Members or outsiders

isn't that the difference?
 

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It's not conceived in someone's mind if it has already been conceived in someone else's mind and published before because the standing argument is that the initial "seed" has "influenced" the current concept, so it's a derivation at best, which is not copyrightable.

Do you not understand the concept of Patents, Copyrights, Trademarks?
I understand copyrights. Do the Carpenters own a copyright for the idea of having a DJ on an album? If so, then by all means they should be credited, to the extent the law allows or requires. I was only saying it was interesting, regardless of who first came up with the idea. Plus the music is good.
 

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but the Wolfman was an actual DJ?

everyone else in this thread are Band Members or outsiders

isn't that the difference?
No. The concept is the same. And not exactly something so out-of-the-box that two different musicians couldn’t conceive of it separately 45 years apart.
 

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It's not conceived in someone's mind if it has already been conceived in someone else's mind and published before because the standing argument is that the initial "seed" has "influenced" the current concept, so it's a derivation at best, which is not copyrightable.

Do you not understand the concept of Patents, Copyrights, Trademarks?
Yeah. It doesn’t work that way. You can’t copyright the idea of having a fake DJ on a album.
 

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Listening to this in 5.1 on Tidal. There’s nothing in the center channel. ???

thinking something is screwy with my account since I had to start up a new Amazon profile which has messed with all my subscriptions through my Firestick. Ahh—technology!
No center (though the "phantom" is strong) in Apple Music for me either. My personal theory is that these spatial mixes with nothing or very little in the center are targeting headphones, but I am just speculating. And it's not so easy for me to tell by ear.
This is a Genelec thing, not VU meters but it's something.
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No center (though the "phantom" is strong) in Apple Music for me either. My personal theory is that these spatial mixes with nothing or very little in the center are targeting headphones, but I am just speculating. And it's not so easy for me to tell by ear.
This is a Genelec thing, not VU meters but it's something.
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You could be right but I’ve never noticed this before with other tracks. And it was the same thing with Weeknd album. So I think something is funky with my setup or subscription. I had an issue with my Amazon account getting hacked and I decided to just close it and open a new one without realizing how much of a hassle it would be with all my app subscriptions.
 

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No center (though the "phantom" is strong) in Apple Music for me either. My personal theory is that these spatial mixes with nothing or very little in the center are targeting headphones, but I am just speculating. And it's not so easy for me to tell by ear.
This is a Genelec thing, not VU meters but it's something.
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Hmmm yeah spending more time with it, older mixes seem to be fine. But most of the latest released pop stuff has no center channel at all. Strange.
 
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