Not sure about quality per say - bits wise. but right off the bat what I hear and it may be the volume level issue that tidal has...music sounded crisper, cleaner, more physical disc like, if you will.
The sound quality compared to Tidal is extremly better. What a wonderful day!
It's probably better that you don't know the bitrate.The bitrate would be nice to know
Tidal blames the DialNorm issue on Dolby and thus will not fix the issue where clearly the issue is not with Dolby but is on Tidal's end so for that alone I would go with Apple
I'm not sure about a Mac but am almost certain it won't work with an iPhone. The only method that has been reported to work so far on this thread is through an Apple TV, unless I missed something.Any insight if one can get Atmos by streaming Apple Music from an iPhone or Mac to an AVR? I don't want to get an Apple TV and I hesitate to sign up if that's the only path forward.
Question for people with Apple Music as well as large iTunes libraries: have you had any issues with files (or artwork) being replaced or otherwise altered by iTunes Match or other components?
I’ve read horror stories but those have tapered off. I still see new ones from time to time and it’s the only reason I’ve avoided Apple Music. I’ve tried Tidal and liked it well enough but since the only way to listen to its surround is by planting my butt on the couch, it’s never seemed like a value proposition.
This does… unless it risks a large portion of 50k other files that include hi-res Blu-ray tips, obscure masterings, etc. that’d be a pain to fix assuming I knew how to find them. Ideally, I’d want to use it solely on iOS devices where I also have synced files… but I’d want it disconnected from the desktop. That doesn’t seem possible.
I’ve read people I trust say that it works based on tags (in which case anything custom tagged should be safe) and I’ve heard it works based on audio fingerprinting (in which case, who knows). I can’t find a consensus. I’ve assumed that one reason there aren’t as many reports of problems now as before is that people with large libraries have stopped taking the risk. That’s certainly been my stance… until now.
I’ve already got a pair of AirPods Pro and have enjoyed what I’ve heard of the spatial surround. I know it won’t match up to the home experience on the full system, but it’d be great to have even a light version of surround while out and about.
I have a free six month voucher for Apple Music, making it all the more tempting. The idea of policing my library, though, and complicating my backup routine just keeps me from trying. I suspect that many users here use Jriver or other alternatives but I’m knee deep in Apple, so even though I have arrived and use it for some things, iTunes does all the heavy lifting.
This is increasingly tempting.
My thoughts exactly. I'm almost tempted to set up a computer with a new AppleID, copy my library over to it and then enable a free trial of Apple Music just to see what happens. I was going to do that with a second account on my primary computer, but Apple has issues with associating more than one AppleID with a computer and can lock you into only being able to download from iTunes with one of them (ability to switch every 90 days). Ugh.
Any insight if one can get Atmos by streaming Apple Music from an iPhone or Mac to an AVR? I don't want to get an Apple TV and I hesitate to sign up if that's the only path forward.
This article seems pretty good about answering those questions. Not surprisingly with a phone the only option seems to be headphones so far.I'm not sure about a Mac but am almost certain it won't work with an iPhone. The only method that has been reported to work so far on this thread is through an Apple TV, unless I missed something.
That would be the model that Tidal followed with Android & Amazon Fire. Use it on the phone and you're stuck with Atmos for headphones. If you want to stream it through your Atmos-ready AVR, then buy one of our new branded devices. (And if you already have one of our older branded devices, well: tough luck; you'll still have to buy a new one!)This article seems pretty good about answering those questions. Not surprisingly with a phone the only option seems to be headphones so far.
Has anyone here tried an older non-4k Apple TV model to get Atmos tracks on Apple Music? Everything I'm seeing seems to suggest a 4k model is needed.
When you search by voice using the mic on the remote while a song is playing, you will notice that it will temporary lower the volume.This may or may not be helpful if you have an Apple TV device
From what I hear this will reveal the Apple Music Atmos is the same 768 kbit/s EC-3 JOC as Tidal and that Apple TV 4K decodes the objects from the Dolby Digital Plus JOC file to mix it with system sounds and transfer it as PCM/Dolby Atmos aka Dolby Metadata Audio Transfer or MAT
Is your tvOS software up to date (14.6) ?I am using a Apple TV 4K into my Marantz receiver which can decode Atmos and downmix it to my 5.1 system. It sounds like it is playing in surround however the Marantz is showing me Stereo as the input and 'Dolby Surround' as the output. I have Atmos turned on in the Apple TV settings and it works correctly with the Apple TV Tidal app.
Anyone got any idea if I am getting Atmos correctly or the Marantz is creating 5.1 from the stereo ?