Nyad
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MCH or stereo, there are no rock recordings I can think of that make me feel I am there. In fact, the recordings themselves are considerably better than the live amplified sound they are created from. The real thing sucks when it comes to live sonics with rock. And studio recordings are most often a patchwork of overdubs that have no equivalent in real time. The mixing is just a creative extension of the performance. Like a seperate instrument being played. So 4 corner discrete dosent bother me at all. Striving for reality with rock music is not practicle or desireable. The best it gets is a good sounding illusion. And there are plenty of those to be had.
I’m glad others in this thread have paved the way for what I’m about to say: I’m no longer overly impressed by Love. The White Album and Abbey Road 5.1 mixes are significantly superior to my ears, and I think (maybe in a roundabout way) they’ve tired me of the Love mashup concept — in other words, with two such stellar mixes of actual Beatles albums on my shelf, the experimental aspect of Love just kinda falls flat for me now. I prefer the band’s own experiments, if that makes sense.
I've also warmed up to the 5.1 of SPLHCB after messing with it a bit.
Care to elaborate on what you did?
The furthest I ever got with it was to juice the rears 4-5dB or so. Not needed on Strawberry Fields or Penny Lane, for whatever reason. I think raising the rear levels is a common need across all the Beatles and Fab solo releases except Abbey Road.
I agree WYWY did not require as large an adjustment. As I recall, that was the best mix on the album. I'll have to revisit Penny Lane.Sure. Remember YMMV:
Surrounds in all tracks juiced up by +3dB except for:
Within You, Without You: +2dB
When I'm Sixty Four: +4dB
Strawberry Fields Forever: +1dB
Penny Lane: +4dB
I only went +3dB generally because I didn't want to over do it. However, if I have listened to a quad recording before playing Pepper, my ears are conditioned to hearing more from the surrounds and I juice Pepper up by another dB.
It is interesting that I feel a need to juice up the surrounds on Penny Lane by +4dB while you found no need to juice it up at all.
Love is it's own animal. You can't simply critique the surround mix, you have to judge the mashups and that will be a very personal matter of taste. That said, I don't know how anyone could possibly fault the work from a technical perspective.
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