Beatles Revolver Box Set (Dolby Atmos Mix available for streaming; NO BLU-RAY)

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Yet even if the suits decided to overrule him initially, it's clear his opinion still means something--that he's not totally out of the decision-making loop. After all, he kept using the second-person plural pronoun: "After all the kick-back, I think what we'll probably do..."
I noticed the same thing, hmmm 🤨
 

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The LP-sized 100-page book is worthless?
I count it as half the value of the set, surely $50.
Different strokes.

Lossless streaming in CD-quality stereo for subscribers, or the reasonable 2-CD version.
Something for everybody.

I really don't care about those books at all. I'm about to run out of box shelf space and I will soon start throwing out boxes along with the books. I'll start with the the Kraftwerk Catalogue. The four discs come in a nice bluray-shelf sized package that already been divorced from it's larger container that takes up oodles of box shelf space. I have the White Album and Abbey Road and those might be the last to go. But everything I especially value resides on my hard drive.
 

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Streaming may be for you!
Yeah, I don't think there are any platforms here. For example, Tidal isn't a thing in Japan...Even 5.1 isn't such a big thing. Homes are small, walls are thin.

Funny story, though: A few years back when I went to AKIHABARA Yodabashi (mega big electronics store in Tokyo) to drop some serious coin on a full 5.1 system, and the sales guy said, "Ah, why do you want to invest in such a big system? It will be all streaming in the future..." Yeow!!o_O His comission could have gone up in smoke.

I'm old (haha)...I'm still so analogue when it comes to music. But who knows? Maybe I'll jump on board the streaming train in the future.
 
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"But I think what we're gonna do, since the kick-back--and I've had a lot of kick-back, and people writing angry letters towards me, even though I had nothing to do with it--I think we'll just release--at some point we'll probably release a high-res Blu-Ray...for the fans."
One can hope! I'm really such a Fabs tragic that I'll probably already have most of the outtakes (?) but buy the box anyway :)() and whinge about it the whole time (before, during and after). I wonder how the mono (sacrilege here I know!) dub will compare to the 2009 release and wonder if it is better (subjectively)?
 

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One can hope! I'm really such a Fabs tragic that I'll probably already have most of the outtakes (?) but buy the box anyway :)() and whinge about it the whole time (before, during and after). I wonder how the mono (sacrilege here I know!) dub will compare to the 2009 release and wonder if it is better (subjectively)?
I’m interested in the new mono transfer as well. Did we ever come to a conclusion as to which mono disc was better for Sgt. Pepper? The one included in the Super Deluxe was supposedly a flat transfer of the mono master, although the 2009 mono’s were pretty flat to begin with, not to mention mastered very lightly, in contrast to the heavier EQ’ing of the 2009 stereo box.
 

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Andrew of Parlogram Auctions prefers vinyl but has rated the CDs in the second video according to his opinion with some reasons.
He does mention, that he "never liked any of the Revolver stereo mixes".
He also does not mention at all, the 2014 American album box set. I picked up that box, at Half Price books along with the Beatles in Mono. What luck! (they price stuff to move it.) I have added a copy of the 2009 Magical Mystery Tour cd to the American set since that was originally an American only album. (I may just slip a copy of the 87 cd in there)
Interestingly for everything from Sgt. Pepper onward he prefers the original 1987-88 cd releases. In that group he prefers the Abbey Road release from Japan. (The black triangle disc. Anybody got that one??? It seems to go for a lot of money on fleabay. 3-500 dollars on ebay and 500 to 1000 in Japan according to an audiophile friend of mine)
In addition to not mentioning the 2014 American box set he also doesn't mention any of the big 50th anniversary boxes. He probably should update that video a bit. It's dated Aug. 21, 2021. So almost all the box sets were already out.
 
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Andrew of Parlogram Auctions prefers vinyl but has rated the CDs in the second video according to his opinion with some reasons.
He does mention, that he "never liked any of the Revolver stereo mixes".
He also does not mention at all, the 2014 American album box set. I picked up that box, at Half Price books along with the Beatles in Mono. What luck! (they price stuff to move it.) I have added a copy of the 2009 Magical Mystery Tour cd to the American set since that was originally an American only album.
Interestingly for everything from Sgt. Pepper onward he prefers the original 1987-88 cd releases. In that group he prefers the Abbey Road release from Japan. (The black triangle disc. Anybody got that one??? It seems to go for a lot of money on fleabay.)
In addition to not mentioning the 2014 American box set he also doesn't mention any of the big 50th anniversary boxes. He probably should update that video a bit. It's dated Aug. 21, 2021. So almost all the box sets were already out.

Thanks for the videos (so far only watched the top one.) I liked this guy’s style, but if I understand correctly what he’s saying here, doesn’t sound like he’s giving Atmos a fair shake. First he mentions you need 2-4 height speakers for a multichannel Atmos setup. It’s actually designed for any speaker setup with on the fly meta data object oriented placement to your system.
Then he judges all the Beatles 1 Atmos mixes from Apple Spatial Atmos on earbuds 🤦‍♂️
However, I didn’t know (or remember?) that the Beatles 1 was out in Atmos. For folks here with 5.1 or more “speaker” Atmos setup, how does The Beatles 1 sound?
Hope I’m not all wet about this, ‘cause it’s early here-LOL
 

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Thanks for the videos (so far only watched the top one.) I liked this guy’s style, but if I understand correctly what he’s saying here, doesn’t sound like he’s giving Atmos a fair shake. First he mentions you need 2-4 height speakers for a multichannel Atmos setup. It’s actually designed for any speaker setup with on the fly meta data object oriented placement to your system.
Then he judges all the Beatles 1 Atmos mixes from Apple Spatial Atmos on earbuds 🤦‍♂️
However, I didn’t know (or remember?) that the Beatles 1 was out in Atmos. For folks here with 5.1 or more “speaker” Atmos setup, how does The Beatles 1 sound?
Hope I’m not all wet about this, ‘cause it’s early here-LOL
The Beatles 1 in ATMOS sounds very good. The bass and drums probably benefit the most, given one further insight on how well Paul and Ringo locked in. The multi channel mix also frees up a ton of sonic space, letting you here details in the instrumental parts and vocals not there in the original mixes. Those that believe surround mixes must have tons of discrete elements will be disappointed however. They just don’t do that with Beatles music. I think the reason is that it would change the fundamental sound and character of the songs. I’m ok with that.
 

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The Beatles 1 in ATMOS sounds very good. The bass and drums probably benefit the most, given one further insight on how well Paul and Ringo locked in. The multi channel mix also frees up a ton of sonic space, letting you here details in the instrumental parts and vocals not there in the original mixes. Those that believe surround mixes must have tons of discrete elements will be disappointed however. They just don’t do that with Beatles music. I think the reason is that it would change the fundamental sound and character of the songs. I’m ok with that.
Nice to hear that you like it. Digging out the details is probably the best reason for converting these to multichannel.

Besides not wanting to change the fundamental sound and character of the songs, there isn't all that much to work with on the early material. I know this from making my own multi-channel mixes of the stuff, but there are definitely little things that can be done to make the presentation more enjoyable.
 

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Thanks for the videos (so far only watched the top one.) I liked this guy’s style, but if I understand correctly what he’s saying here, doesn’t sound like he’s giving Atmos a fair shake. First he mentions you need 2-4 height speakers for a multichannel Atmos setup. It’s actually designed for any speaker setup with on the fly meta data object oriented placement to your system.
Then he judges all the Beatles 1 Atmos mixes from Apple Spatial Atmos on earbuds 🤦‍♂️
However, I didn’t know (or remember?) that the Beatles 1 was out in Atmos. For folks here with 5.1 or more “speaker” Atmos setup, how does The Beatles 1 sound?
Hope I’m not all wet about this, ‘cause it’s early here-LOL
He actually distinguishes between Apple (not Beatles AppleCorp) Spatial Audio , which he is not crazy about and Dolby Atmos , which "he would like to hear on a big system" which he does not have. He has stereo according to most of his videos. He was a Beatles fan from the get go starting as a young boy. But he mainly collects and traffics in vinyl. I like the CD video very well.

I notice that on the streaming tracks he shows and talks about they come from a variety of vintages and sources. Probably some of them are 5.1 files from elsewhere.

I remain suspicious of Atmos fabricated from 50 year old original tapes. And doubly suspicious of streaming only files which were very likely to have been done as batch files.
 
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No Atmos, alright. But de-mixing, yes.
Interesting. Giles states that the only song where they didn’t need to demix was Eleanor Rigby because they had multiple 4 track tapes for all of the elements. So we were spoiled by ER appearing on the Love album.
 

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Interesting. Giles states that the only song where they didn’t need to demix was Eleanor Rigby because they had multiple 4 track tapes for all of the elements. So we were spoiled by ER appearing on the Love album.
I’m guessing they’ll have fixed the ADT issue on the original stereo mix, I don’t see why not as it was fixed for the 2015 remix.
 
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