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ubertrout

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There were a handful of Columbia Masterworks quad releases where the Q8 version was truncated - it seems like the physical upper limit of Q8 tape (as you can see in @sjcorne 's photo above) was somewhere between 49 and 50 minutes (which would've been about 100 minutes in stereo) so they edited the tape down rather than put it on two 30 minute tapes which I guess wouldn't have been cost effective given the lower sales of classical Q8's.

Aside from the E. Power Biggs mentioned above, the other ones I've found that are shortened are:

Michael Tilson-Thomas/Cleveland Orchestra 'Carmina Burana' (QAX 33172)
Leonard Bernstein 'Candide - Original Cast Recording' (QSA 32923)
Pierre Boulez/NY Philharmonic 'Boulez Conducts Wagner' (MAQ 32296)
Pierre Boulez/NY Philharmonic 'Bartok: Miraculous Mandarin' (MAQ 31368) [omits the 'Dance Suite' entirely]
Daniel Barenboim/London Philharmonic 'Elgar: Pomp & Circumstance Marches / Crown of India Suite' (MAQ 32936) [omits 'Imperial March Op. 32' entirely]
Daniel Barenboim/London Philharmonic 'Elgar: Falstaff (MAQ 32599) [omits 'Cockaigne Overture, Op. 40' entirely]

This isn't an exhaustive list, but I think it's the majority of them.
How scandalous! I don't have a particular problem with omitting discrete pieces, actually, but cutting Carmina Burana down should have been a no-no. Seems this was discussed here too: https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/index.php?threads/q8s-that-were-butchered-by-the-fine-folks-at-columbia-records.14329/ by @ArmyOfQuad

I guess D-V should really release that Carmina Burana, given that there's no discrete versions available whatsoever... :) (here's a review for the unconvinced, of the stereo version: https://www.classicstoday.com/review/review-12621/)

I'm guessing Candide is the 1974 cast and not the original from 1956?
 

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How scandalous! I don't have a particular problem with omitting discrete pieces, actually, but cutting Carmina Burana down should have been a no-no. Seems this was discussed here too: https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/index.php?threads/q8s-that-were-butchered-by-the-fine-folks-at-columbia-records.14329/ by @ArmyOfQuad

I guess D-V should really release that Carmina Burana, given that there's no discrete versions available whatsoever... :) (here's a review for the unconvinced, of the stereo version: https://www.classicstoday.com/review/review-12621/)

I'm guessing Candide is the 1974 cast and not the original from 1956?
Candide is indeed the 1974 cast. (I scored an unopened copy of the 2-disc SQLP a couple of years ago, and another QQ member kindly did a digital transfer for me. It's good fun, and a fairly active mix.)


Would love for Michael Dutton to release any of recordings under discussion here, but especially Candide and MTT's Carmina Burana.
 

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How scandalous! I don't have a particular problem with omitting discrete pieces, actually, but cutting Carmina Burana down should have been a no-no. Seems this was discussed here too: https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/index.php?threads/q8s-that-were-butchered-by-the-fine-folks-at-columbia-records.14329/ by @ArmyOfQuad

I guess D-V should really release that Carmina Burana, given that there's no discrete versions available whatsoever... :) (here's a review for the unconvinced, of the stereo version: https://www.classicstoday.com/review/review-12621/)

I'm guessing Candide is the 1974 cast and not the original from 1956?
oh i'd love Carmina Burana! it'd do good business for DV i reckon, maybe it'll be in the next batch? it feels like we're overdue some Classical "surround spectaculars"! i have a vague recollection there's a Japanese CD of it that is said to be the SQ Quad maybe?
 

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oh i'd love Carmina Burana! it'd do good business for DV i reckon, maybe it'll be in the next batch? it feels like we're overdue some Classical "surround spectaculars"! i have a vague recollection there's a Japanese CD of it that is said to be the SQ Quad maybe?
There's surprisingly few - only four in multichannel, of which two are fake surround and two are nice but not that discrete: https://www.hraudio.net/recordings.php?work=1900. Musically, the MTT version is superior to any of them.
 
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