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Dynamic Range plugin for Foobar. Has a replacement come along yet?

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Sometimes I acquire old DVD's that have DD5.1. Not the best, but when It's all you can get, like most of the Tangerine Dream DVD's you take what you get.
But this day and time there are Blu Ray Discs being turned out with DD 5.1. For goodness sake! Why not at least DTS?
So I 'm just curious how some of these BD's rate VS my hearing... cause some of them honestly don't sound too good. You expect the DD DVD sound quality (or lack thereof) but a BD? Come on!
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I haven't seen a new DR plugin for Foobar yet.

As far as hearing, I'm thinking about taking a self made test (maybe someone like @HomerJAU or @Sonik Wiz) already have something like this?

But I'm thinking of taking a song I know well that has lots of upper range material and pixie dust and doing Low-High pass filtering on them, to separate out to 1Khz ranges at different points and then listen on headphones and see at what point I can start to hear something - 15K, 12K, 10K, 8... :eek:
 

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I don't even want to know the damage that going to shows, riding motorcycles and firing mortars has done to my hearing.
None at my last check, but it has been awhile.
 

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I don't even want to know the damage that going to shows, riding motorcycles and firing mortars has done to my hearing.
None at my last check, but it has been awhile.
I've thought about this for years now (lots of loud guitar playing and concerts for me), scares me for sure, procrastinating like a SOB!
 

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I haven't seen a new DR plugin for Foobar yet.

As far as hearing, I'm thinking about taking a self made test (maybe someone like @HomerJAU or @Sonik Wiz) already have something like this?

But I'm thinking of taking a song I know well that has lots of upper range material and pixie dust and doing Low-High pass filtering on them, to separate out to 1Khz ranges at different points and then listen on headphones and see at what point I can start to hear something - 15K, 12K, 10K, 8... :eek:
I don't obsess much over dynamic range. Yes I appreciate it & I hate music with the life squashed out of but it's not like I'm going not listen to a song I like just because it's compressed & has a bad DR number. It's only one aspect why a song may or may not sound good to you.
AA 3 doesn't have a direct way of analyzing DR but the Amplitude Analysis Window gives peak, minimum level, average RMS that's pretty easy to interpret. See post #50 in the Sunday with Involve thread.

As for hearing AA 3 also has noise , sine & square wave generators. So a few years ago I made a 1kHz sine wave max level & adjusted my PC monitor speakers (BIC 6.5" 2ways) to a comfortable level. And,no, I don't know what the actual SPL was. But any ways I then made a 5KHz wave, a 10kHz wave, etc. Kept upping it. I could hear quite well to 16kHz. But then as I said that was a few years ago.

My bigger problem is tinnitus that started after a very, very loud music performance at an anime con. Quite bothersome at night. But the nice thing about home audio is you just boost the level of the music/movies a bit & the ringing is masked. I'm lucky that however my ears have aged they have done so equally. To be deaf in one ear would definitely make surround sound enjoyment a dead pleasure.
 

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As far as hearing, I'm thinking about taking a self made test (maybe someone like @HomerJAU or @Sonik Wiz) already have something like this?
I once downloaded a 30-second 20Hz-20kHz "sweep" file from AudioCheck.net that let you pinpoint fairly precisely where your hearing cut out. (I think mine dropped off somewhere between 10 and 12k, and that was three or four years ago.)

I can't attach it to this post, and I can no longer even remember how to use it (!). But you can probably find something similar on their site. (I'm thinking "Blind Tests.")


Edit: here we go; this seems to be the latest version:
 

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I once downloaded a 30-second 20Hz-20kHz "sweep" file from AudioCheck.net that let you pinpoint fairly precisely where your hearing cut out. (I think mine dropped off somewhere between 10 and 12k, and that was three or four years ago.)

I can't attach it to this post, and I can no longer even remember how to use it (!). But you can probably find something similar on their site. (I'm thinking "Blind Tests.")


Edit: here we go; this seems to be the latest version:
That Audio Check website is awesome! And it's a new one to me. Thanks!
 

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I once downloaded a 30-second 20Hz-20kHz "sweep" file from AudioCheck.net that let you pinpoint fairly precisely where your hearing cut out. (I think mine dropped off somewhere between 10 and 12k, and that was three or four years ago.)

I can't attach it to this post, and I can no longer even remember how to use it (!). But you can probably find something similar on their site. (I'm thinking "Blind Tests.")


Edit: here we go; this seems to be the latest version:
OK, took the test, I started hearing the tone at about 14K, better than what I thought, but probably not so good either :unsure:
 

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Last time I took a hearing test was at the Tampa VA. That was about 1980. Pretty much over 10K was fucked, they said. IDK. I was in a very noisy environment for a while and I was only 19. C'est la Vie
I wouldn't go back and change a thing.
 

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OK, took the test, I started hearing the tone at about 14K, better than what I thought, but probably not so good either :unsure:
That seems to be right around where my hearing kicks in, too, Pup (much to my amazement). And really, I think that's okay.

We all came up thinking that our ideal for hi-fi sound reproduction was a flat curve from 20Hz to 20kHz, which is the theoretical range of human hearing for a young person with great ears. But the reality is that the range of acoustic instruments (excluding some cymbals, maybe?) tops out at 10k, anyway. I donno about electronic instruments. Sure, overtones out of the range of hearing may affect how we hear the actual "tones," too. And if we're not hearing the attack and decay of certain notes at their actual levels, then that also changes our perception of the character of the music. Also no guarantee that we're hearing 14k as loudly as we hear frequencies lower down on the spectrum. But even if you lost your ability to hear above 8k, you wouldn't be missing much.
 
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That seems to be right around where my hearing kicks in, too, Pup (much to my amazement). And really, I think that's okay.

We all came up thinking that our ideal for hi-fi sound reproduction was a flat curve from 20Hz to 20kHz, which is the theoretical range of human hearing for a young person with great ears. But the reality is that the range of acoustic instruments (excluding some cymbals, maybe?--I donno) tops out at 10k, anyway. I donno about electronic instruments. Sure, overtones out of the range of hearing may affect how we hear the actual "tones," too. And if we're not hearing the attack and decay of certain notes at their actual levels, then that also changes our perception of the character of the music. But even if you lost your ability to hear the spectrum above 8k, you wouldn't be missing much.
I'd like to know what a youngster like @sjcorne can hear with that test (if he was so inclined to reveal it?) He's mentioned some titles recently that he felt were too bright on the upper range, and I thought were fine, so maybe he can hear what I can't? :whistle:
 

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I'd like to know what a youngster like @sjcorne can hear with that test (if he was so inclined to reveal it?) He's mentioned some titles recently that he felt were too bright on the upper range, and I thought were fine, so maybe he can hear what I can't? :whistle:
The tone started at relatively low volume at 18k for me, then got much louder at 17k.
 

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I'm curious what titles sjcorne thought were bright sounding...I'd like to check them out....I've got good response to 16k myself...especially if I haven't been drinking in a while :)
 

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I'm curious what titles sjcorne thought were bright sounding...I'd like to check them out....I've got good response to 16k myself...especially if I haven't been drinking in a while :)
I'm far from an expert on mastering/tonal balance and naming specific frequencies that stand out, but the surround titles listed below seem 'bright' to me:
  • Beatles - White Album
  • Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
  • Guns 'n' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
  • Doobie Brothers - The Captain & Me (Quadio Blu-Ray)
 

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I once downloaded a 30-second 20Hz-20kHz "sweep" file from AudioCheck.net that let you pinpoint fairly precisely where your hearing cut out. (I think mine dropped off somewhere between 10 and 12k, and that was three or four years ago.)

I can't attach it to this post, and I can no longer even remember how to use it (!). But you can probably find something similar on their site. (I'm thinking "Blind Tests.")


Edit: here we go; this seems to be the latest version:
Holy SHITE!!!
The Binaural test had me looking over my shoulder!!!!!
I was LAUGHING OUT LOUD ....
 

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I'm lucky that however my ears have aged they have done so equally. To be deaf in one ear would definitely make surround sound enjoyment a dead pleasure.
I just spent some time in an intermittently one-eared situation that became annoying enough to drive me to see a doctor for the first time in something like 13 years (I know, I know!).

Yesterday a very nice nurse jammed a firehose in the offending ear and everything is back to normal. Our bodies can at times be disgusting and/or frustrating.

Though I guess I can gloat about being 61 and having 77 LDL and 45 HDL...
 
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