Facts on Atmos streaming bitrates?

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JimHansonDC

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I'm not finding what I consider definitive answers. I read all I could find here and while trying to no be repetitive, I have some questions.

What are the known bitrates at which Tidal & Apple stream Atmos?
I saw 784 kbps which is pretty anemic.

Tidal talks about Master quality with 9216 kbps, but they don't say if that applies to Atmos and it appears not to (MQA issues aside). So what you can get is Uber-high quality stereo. Nice, but I want to listen to whichever service is sending an Atmos stream out the door at the highest rate. They all seem to want to hide that, which makes me believe they are sending it out at the screaming fast level I want.

The other part of this question is do we know if the stream-only Atmos mixes for the songs on these services are even encoded at bluray quality or are they not & just designed to be streamed out at the obviously much lower rates than physical media gives?

Any insight would be appreciated. I've read lots of educated guesses and tried to decipher the BS from the serices.
 

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atmos streaming is the new mp3

when mp3 first came out eveyone thought it was the greatest thing since slice bread and now 25 years later not one single person on the planet uses it because of how bad it was discovered to be.

it's why I cancelled my streaming services and only listen to old atmos blu-rays and only buy new mixes if they come out on physical media

I believe that apple has suckered an entire generation of young people (and some old), it's disgusting IMO
 
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I agree it seems like a marketing ploy. I applaud the fact they are getting more Atmos mixes into play. And that they are a growing part of the streaming music universe. That is going to drive the demand for most major releases and back catalogs to get that treatment.

But they also have to deliver it in a format that is worthy of that additional effort to do the mixes. A stream at 784 k or whatever vs. a bluray delivering at 10 times that is ridiculous. But there are also costs for the streaming firms in infrastructure to do so and a fear of high bandwidth charges eventually from ISPs

Either way I am hopeful this is a good sign for the future, but doubtful they are delivering the real deal now.
 
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