- Mar 2, 2002
O.K., I'm going to follow Elmer's lead on this...I am surprised that I am the first to vote on this - I know it just came out on Tuesday
I think the 88.2 is either the native sampling rate, or they upsampled from 44.1....they decided to save some space by presenting the surround mixes in 88.2/24, so they could present the outtakes and radio sessions in DVDA 48/24 stereo. That's a fair trade, IMHO, because their extras are usually good.
Chris:This group really does present their music in great packages that are well thought out and executed. They use and promote surround as well as any group. How about putting as much thought in using a lead singer that could actually sing? The music is a stretch to appeal to anything more than a tiny niche market for all of eternity, but a better singer would sure help. I bought this but haven't even opened it yet. I own but don't ever play the last two Flaming Lips DVD-A's but want to have them to show off since they are internet darlings. Mention The Flaming Lips to anybody I know my age and I get the Flaming what?
You are welcome but you used the word. Yes, Wayne has the benefit of being the first to hear himself sing, so he could state the obvious first. Charming is a better word than novelty, but whatever word is used I bet I am not alone in having "it" wear off quickly. I think a good singer could better represent Wayne's vision and overcome the glaring weakness so apparent with repeated listening. Off key singing is charming once but loses that charm over time for me.Chris:
Thank you for not using the word "novelty" again... and I must agree with you that Wayne isn't a good singer. But I honestly think this band would lose a lot of its charm if anyone else were singing. I take some comfort in the fact that Wayne is the first one to admit he can't sing!
Because of the surround mixes and the fact they are interesting for the first couple of listens to me. I don't like everything I own but I either like everything I own really well or it is really unique. These discs are fun to show what surround systems can do, although I will likely stick with this one and Yoshimi primarily for that purpose. The Tipper "Surrounded" DVD-A is another one I like to use for that purpose but don't find much value in the music. It is demo material, although I expect some people will likely scratch their head rather than find it interesting. Long term, I expect I will sell them all because I shouldn't lose too much money. I expect the cult fan status of this group to endure for sometime. I loved Yoshimi the first several times and bought Bulletin before the group grew tiresome for me.Haven't voted yet, (only listened once all the way through), but the mix is superior to the, at times eccentric and to me unlistenable on a couple of cuts, Soft Bulletin surround mix. The sound isn't as harsh and jarring either. On another topic, Chris...what's the point of buying these if you never play them, and only want to show them off, whatever that means?.
Yep, some artists and albums are like that. I remember when a friend first got me to listen to Zappa’s “We’re Only In It for the Money” back in the mid-70’s. I thought it was a disjointed piece of junk. Now, I count it among my all-time favorites. (Now there’s an album could sound great in surround!). Similarly, I found NIN’s “Downward Spiral” absolutely unlistenable when it was first released. But then sometime around the late-90’s it finally hit me as a challenging but rewarding listen.- - and the recent surround version is nothing short of jaw-dropping.It took me a long while to get into the original "Soft Bulletin" CD. I bought it originally because it was one of the must-have discs of the year in the British music press but I was disappointed at first and the only reason I kept it was due to the store refusing to exchange it for something else. I guess that this was a stroke of luck because the album really grew on me and I wouldn't part with it today (although the production's a bit too dense and brittle for my taste). I haven't played the new disc enough to really appreciate the songs so from my past experience it will be a while before I can pass judgement on the music but the surround mix is first-rate. It really took me by surprise when the stereo bonus tracks opened up to Dolby 5.1 for "Bohemian Rhapsody".