HiRez Poll Harrison, George - ALL THINGS MUST PASS [Blu-Ray Audio (Dolby Atmos)]

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Rate the BDA of George Harrison - ALL THINGS MUST PASS

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This article (shared in the release thread by @sjcorne ) has incredible detail on the recording and mixing process and is a nice companion to the included recording notes. The Making of All Things Must Pass Page 5
Important regarding the surround mixes:
"The original recordings, to some degree, limited how much remixing could be done. "Nearly every song has a stereo guitar track," McDonald, due to the limited space of 8-track tape, having combined both George's and Eric's electric guitars with the acoustics – and, often, with reverb – onto two tracks, making it impossible to create a new mix with those items separated. "We tried various kinds of software to get rid of the reverb, but it was really better just left alone." (Paul Hicks quoted)

Some songs had just 8 tracks:
"At Abbey Road, Philip McDonald and John Leckie worked from Tuesday October 6 thru Friday October 9, in a dedicated mix room, Room 4, as well as in the control room in Studio 3, where they could take advantage of the Varispeed setups, for tape wobble, phasing and other tape effects, as were done on "Isn't It a Pity (Version 2)" and "I Dig Love," with its tape echo. Other tracks mixed by McDonald included "I'd Have You Anytime," "If Not For You," Run of the Mill," "Awaiting On You All," "Apple Scruffs," "Ballad of Sir Frankie Crisp" and "Art of Dying." The remainder were mixed by Ken Scott, finishing on Saturday October 17."

These other songs had up to 16 tracks to work from: My Sweet Lord, Wah-Wah, Isn't It A Pity, What is Life, Behind That Locked Door, Let It Down, (all from disc one) plus Beware of Darkness, All Things Must Pass, and Hear Me Lord.

Hicks has done a nice job with some limited choices.
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A 10 certainly. (Listening in atmos in 5.1.2). I like the small changes. New "Crisp" vocals. The toms are huge. George's voice has more presence.
Louder bass guitar shows off the incredible playing of Voormann and Radle.
I do wish "I Live For You" would've been included (as in the 2000 version) even though it wasn't finished in 1970. Great song plus Pete Drake on pedal steel.
I wish the full-band outtakes would've been mixed in surround also.
Also some instrumental versions would've been cool... :)

I would agree that Apple Scruffs, I Dig Love, and the 1st version of Isn't It A Pity could've been/ would've been b-sides, (and the Apple Jams don't count) but you've still got 15 incredible songs. Songs 5-10 are quite a run!
A 10.
 
TrueHD 7.1/Atmos:
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Analyzed: George Harrison / All Things Must Pass (TrueHD 7.1/Atmos)
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DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
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DR11      -0.02 dB   -16.11 dB      2:58 01-I’d Have You Anytime
DR11      -0.02 dB   -16.46 dB      4:41 02-My Sweet Lord
DR11      -0.02 dB   -14.59 dB      5:38 03-Wah‐Wah
DR12      -0.02 dB   -16.53 dB      7:11 04-Isn’t It a Pity (version one)
DR11      -0.02 dB   -14.51 dB      4:24 05-What Is Life
DR12      -0.02 dB   -16.56 dB      3:31 06-If Not for You
DR11      -0.02 dB   -15.47 dB      3:07 07-Behind That Locked Door
DR10      -0.02 dB   -14.67 dB      4:58 08-Let It Down
DR11      -0.02 dB   -15.17 dB      2:53 09-Run of the Mill
DR11      -0.02 dB   -14.65 dB      3:52 10-Beware of Darkness
DR10      -1.67 dB   -20.15 dB      3:07 11-Apple Scruffs
DR11      -0.02 dB   -15.52 dB      3:48 12-Ballad of Sir Frankie Crisp (Let It Roll)
DR10      -0.02 dB   -14.34 dB      2:48 13-Awaiting on You All
DR11      -0.02 dB   -14.50 dB      3:47 14-All Things Must Pass
DR12      -0.02 dB   -15.36 dB      4:57 15-I Dig Love
DR10      -0.02 dB   -14.17 dB      3:39 16-Art of Dying
DR11      -0.02 dB   -16.25 dB      4:48 17-Isn’t It a Pity (version two)
DR10      -0.02 dB   -13.71 dB      5:49 18-Hear Me Lord
DR9       -0.20 dB   -15.99 dB     11:16 19-Out of the Blue
DR10      -1.59 dB   -18.25 dB      0:51 20-It’s Johnny’s Birthday
DR9       -0.63 dB   -12.72 dB      3:18 21-Plug Me In
DR10      -0.21 dB   -13.93 dB      8:08 22-I Remember Jeep
DR10      -0.20 dB   -12.79 dB      5:32 23-Thanks for the Pepperoni
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Number of tracks:  23
Official DR value: DR11

Samplerate:        48000 Hz
Channels:          8
Bits per sample:   24
Bitrate:           3288 kbps
Codec:             FLAC
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DTS-HDMA 5.1:
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Analyzed: George Harrison / All Things Must Pass (DTS-HDMA 5.1)
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DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
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DR11      -0.20 dB   -14.05 dB      2:58 01-I’d Have You Anytime
DR11      -0.20 dB   -14.54 dB      4:41 02-My Sweet Lord
DR10      -0.20 dB   -12.55 dB      5:38 03-Wah‐Wah
DR11      -0.20 dB   -14.46 dB      7:11 04-Isn’t It a Pity (version one, Dolby Atmos mix)
DR10      -0.20 dB   -12.48 dB      4:24 05-What Is Life
DR11      -0.20 dB   -14.14 dB      3:31 06-If Not for You
DR11      -0.20 dB   -13.52 dB      3:07 07-Behind That Locked Door
DR9       -0.20 dB   -12.66 dB      4:58 08-Let It Down
DR11      -0.20 dB   -13.23 dB      2:53 09-Run of the Mill
DR11      -0.20 dB   -12.64 dB      3:52 10-Beware of Darkness
DR10      -0.24 dB   -18.23 dB      3:07 11-Apple Scruffs
DR10      -0.20 dB   -13.26 dB      3:48 12-Ballad of Sir Frankie Crisp (Let It Roll)
DR9       -0.20 dB   -12.19 dB      2:48 13-Awaiting on You All
DR10      -0.20 dB   -12.46 dB      3:47 14-All Things Must Pass
DR11      -0.20 dB   -13.35 dB      4:57 15-I Dig Love
DR9       -0.20 dB   -12.16 dB      3:39 16-Art of Dying
DR10      -0.20 dB   -14.20 dB      4:48 17-Isn’t It a Pity (version two, Dolby Atmos mix)
DR9       -0.20 dB   -11.67 dB      5:49 18-Hear Me Lord
DR8       -0.30 dB   -14.94 dB     11:16 19-Out of the Blue
DR5       -1.78 dB   -17.81 dB      0:51 20-It’s Johnny’s Birthday
DR7       -0.61 dB   -12.25 dB      3:18 21-Plug Me In
DR8       -0.29 dB   -13.45 dB      8:08 22-I Remember Jeep
DR8       -0.20 dB   -12.32 dB      5:32 23-Thanks for the Pepperoni
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Number of tracks:  23
Official DR value: DR10

Samplerate:        192000 Hz
Channels:          6
Bits per sample:   24
Bitrate:           8386 kbps
Codec:             FLAC
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This is a great release that I think we are extremely lucky to get! They did a wonderful job with this new mix and I can only hope that they continue making George Harrison box sets like this! The ATMOS mix is discrete and immersive. Very well done.

I haven’t experienced any menu problems at all using my OPPO UDP-205. I’m looking forward to checking out the other discs but for now I have to continue listening to the ATMOS mix….it’s just so good.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

An easy 10 from me.
 
10/10 for me, but I have some wishes, regardless of what most of you think so far….I love this new mix in its own right…super spacious, clean but in my opinion I do miss some of the WALL OF SOUND…so what might have been a very cool idea would have been to have the original 1970 version mixed into Atmos as well…to me the original had more UMPH to it….
 
musicmemorabiliashoppellc said:
10/10 for me, but I have some wishes, regardless of what most of you think so far….I love this new mix in its own right…super spacious, clean but in my opinion I do miss some of the WALL OF SOUND…so what might have been a very cool idea would have been to have the original 1970 version mixed into Atmos as well…to me the original had more UMPH to it….
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It's possible some of the effects weren't recorded to tape. It would have been great to include the original stereo mix though. And to try to recreate the wall of sound in immersive too, yeah.
 
edisonbaggins said:
It's possible some of the effects weren't recorded to tape. It would have been great to include the original stereo mix though. And to try to recreate the wall of sound in immersive too, yeah.
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If some of the effects weren’t recorded to tape originally, how would have they made it to the original masters? I don’t think they did direct recording to masters back in the day.
 
musicmemorabiliashoppellc said:
If some of the effects weren’t recorded to tape originally, how would have they made it to the original masters? I don’t think they did direct recording to masters back in the day.
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They applied effects (and other mix elements) at mixdown all the time. It's one reason why doing classic album remixes is so damned difficult. A lot has to be recreated. Watch or read some remixing making of's!
 
A 9 for me. It's great, of course - better than the Lennon mixes or Sgt. Pepper's, probably as good as The White Album, but not quite on the level of Abbey Road to these ears. All the deluxe packaging of the uber box is swell, but still not worth what I paid for it. Here's hoping they do some McCartney in 5.1 next.
 
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Arrived yesterday. Birthday gift from Mrs K. 😘

Quick initial impressions:

Listened to ~ 9 of my favorite tunes in Atmos. Excellent! Sounds like I'm in an all encompassing clean and clear bubble of sound instead of Spector's (brick) wall of mush. George's voice is more prevalent and clearer too. I find it technically amazing what Paul Hicks was able to do with what he had to work with.

Switched to DTS-HD MA 5.1 mix for comparison on some tunes. Sound very good but not as encompassing as the Atmos mix. Also the DTS mix is more front centric.

Extremely enjoyable. Highly recommended!

Gave it a "10".

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I agree with the general trend, its a solid 10. Even though I don’t have an Atmos system, the Atmos mix sounds way better on my 7.1 system than the DTS 5.1 mix, which I find somewhat puzzling. Did they put less effort into the 5.1? Anyway, thanks to whoever recommended listening to the Atmos version on non-Atmos systems, I would have otherwise been somewhat disappointed. I will have to go back and listen to other Atmos mixes that I have, this could be the start of a new rabbit hole for me! Regarding the packaging, for some reason I was expecting a full album-sized box, similar to the King Crimson boxes, so was surprised to get a 7” size box. The packaging is great, just smaller than I expected!
 
Progfiend said:
I agree with the general trend, its a solid 10. Even though I don’t have an Atmos system, the Atmos mix sounds way better on my 7.1 system than the DTS 5.1 mix, which I find somewhat puzzling. Did they put less effort into the 5.1? Anyway, thanks to whoever recommended listening to the Atmos version on non-Atmos systems, I would have otherwise been somewhat disappointed. I will have to go back and listen to other Atmos mixes that I have, this could be the start of a new rabbit hole for me! Regarding the packaging, for some reason I was expecting a full album-sized box, similar to the King Crimson boxes, so was surprised to get a 7” size box. The packaging is great, just smaller than I expected!
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I really prefer the smaller packaging. It’s a pain to open like the Pink Floyd immersion boxes to just get out the surround blu ray. The large boxes also take up too much room as I already have two closets full with all of my cds/ blu rays / box sets!
 
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