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DVD/DTS Poll Jethro Tull - STORMWATCH [DTS DVD]

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Rate the DTS DVD of Jethro Tull - STORMWATCH

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jimfisheye

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Hmmmm. This may be my least favorite of all the JT sets released. (“Too Old To Rock And Roll” is a contender) The album sounds great. It was obviously recorded very well in 1979. But this may be the weakest, least memorable set of songs in their catalog. And even the 5.1 mix is surprisingly lackluster.

While most wouldn't have fit on the album, nor do I think they make a great album on their own, I prefer most of the “associated recordings” to the proper album. And I don’t ever say that about bonus tracks.

As with all the other sets, the packaging is fantastic and the 96-page book is very nice. The live discs are a nice, but not particularly necessary bonus. As much as I hate to do it, I just can’t give this more than a “7”. Had the surround mix been more compelling, maybe it would have been an “8”? Having heard before that this was Wilson’s favorite Tull album, I expected more from the mix.

It’s clear the band was out of gas here. No surprise they essentially broke up after this.
Worst of show for the core period (which I thought this album book ended) was Too Old for me. The next 3 didn't quite rise to the level of Stand Up thru Mistral IMHO but are solid work. With the benefit of the bonus tracks, it sounds like they were really trying to return to form here with more trippy prog kind of stuff too. The unedited version of Orion is an interesting reveal there! I guess they just ran out of steam or something and edited it down instead of continuing work on it and eventually nailing it. Too bad that all hit the cutting room floor. There was a clue I missed in their live set with some of that arrangement still in the song! Looks like I had never collected any live recordings from 1979 before. Dun Ringill is still a high point on this one. It's just a simple little acoustic ditty but it's a really strong high point for me.
 

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Worst of show for the core period (which I thought this album book ended) was Too Old for me. The next 3 didn't quite rise to the level of Stand Up thru Mistral IMHO but are solid work. With the benefit of the bonus tracks, it sounds like they were really trying to return to form here with more trippy prog kind of stuff too. The unedited version of Orion is an interesting reveal there! I guess they just ran out of steam or something and edited it down instead of continuing work on it and eventually nailing it. Too bad that all hit the cutting room floor. There was a clue I missed in their live set with some of that arrangement still in the song! Looks like I had never collected any live recordings from 1979 before. Dun Ringill is still a high point on this one. It's just a simple little acoustic ditty but it's a really strong high point for me.
can’t disagree here except to say I think Songs From The Wood is one of their best, period. Heavy Horses has grown on me over time. This one? Meh. I appreciate the musicianship. Some of the arrangements are interesting. Martin’s guitar sounds big and fat and rocking. I do like that this album is heavier than most of their others. (I don’t get the “folk trio” thing here at all. There’s nothing “folk” about this album save a track or two).

but other than a couple of tracks? Well, like others have said, weak Tull is better than a lot of bands’ best work.
 

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Does anybody know when the 5.1 boxes, that are selling for super high prices, will be re-released. At least three of them have been on back order for a year and a half!!!
 

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Does anybody know when the 5.1 boxes, that are selling for super high prices, will be re-released. At least three of them have been on back order for a year and a half!!!
I have read that there are no plans to re-press any of them except Benefit, and that is coming in book form like the others. It didn't originally come in that type of package.
 

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Not good at all!! I really want the Songs From the wood 5.1 box, but won't pay over$100. It doesn't have to be new. If somebody will sell one under $100, I'd be interested.
 

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You did? Home come you missed it? No initial interest?
Yeah, pretty much. Was just getting familiar with JT and that one didn't grab me like Benefit, Aqualung, TAAB, etc. did. :(
It was This Was that caused me to reconsider Stand Up. Viewing it as a historical documentation of the rise of the band made it more interesting to me.
 
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Yeah, pretty much. Was just getting familiar with JT and that one didn't grab me like Benefit, Aqualung, TAAB, etc. did. :(
It was This Was that caused me to reconsider Stand Up. Viewing it as a historical documentation of the rise of the band made it more interesting to me.
Yeah, well had I bought 2 copies, I'd sell you one for a "bro" rate. But, I only bought 1.
 

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Bummer too as Stand Up is excellent.
Definitely one of my favorites in the series. I love all the active panning Steven did in the surround mix - the flute solo going around-the-room in "We Used To Know", guitar solo bouncing back-and-forth in the rears in "Back To The Family", guitar jumping from speaker-to-speaker at the end of "Nothing Is Easy", etc. Unlike some of the other Tull 5.1's, it feels more like a fun old quad mix from the '70s.

As for the topic of the thread, I agree with @keywhiz that the 5.1 of the main album is surprisingly tame for SW. The opening track kicks off with the rhythm section, flute, and electric guitar all upfront, with just the occasional tom fill hitting the rears. I thought the 'Associated Recordings' on DVD 2 had far more interesting surround mixes, particularly the fantastic alternate version of "Dun Ringill".
 
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I know it's a bit late now, but I'd suggest everyone sign up for the Burning Shed newsletter (email) out of the UK. I have all of the JT box sets as I pre-ordered the titles from them as soon as they were announced (because of their immediate notification). The price is also cheaper for overseas buyers (like me) as they knock off the British VAT of 20%, and if the "Benefit" book-set rumour is true, you won't miss out.
 

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Yeah, pretty much. Was just getting familiar with JT and that one didn't grab me like Benefit, Aqualung, TAAB, etc. did. :(
It was This Was that caused me to reconsider Stand Up. Viewing it as a historical documentation of the rise of the band made it more interesting to me.
Oh my god!

I remember when I was 10 at a family friends vacations, my friend and me listening the recent released Stand Up recorded in a cassette tape. I can't explain it but Bouree hypnotized me in such a way at that early years....

And now, after so many years (I'm 62), again I cannot explain it and Bouree keeps hypnotizing me. But has to be that original version with the Glenn Cornick bass interlude.

The rest of the album is excellent and I even like it better than Benefit. I learned to listen to music with those Albums at that time.
 

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I have read that there are no plans to re-press any of them except Benefit, and that is coming in book form like the others. It didn't originally come in that type of package.
Benefit is not one of my favorites, but I'd certainly buy it again just to have it in the same sized box as all the rest. It's the sore thumb on my JT shelf!

And Thick As A Brick. Unfortunately, I have the earlier defective package and have never been able to find a newer one that I was certain was even a newer one, let alone at a price I was willing to pay.
 

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While I don't imagine that SW would be involved, has anyone heard if there are any plans to continue on with Tull reissues? Or is Ian pretty much done figuring there wouldn't be much market for the 80s stuff?
 

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I'd love to hear a SW mix of "A"! The psychedelic element from Jobson on that is greatness. The stereo mixes are so stepped on...

Speaking of stepped on. The last 3 from this lineup (Songs - Storm) got hit with the late '70s studio budget cuts and declining vinyl quality. While at the same time their mixes were evolving and getting denser. A disaster! The original unmolested stereo mixes finally available for these last 3 are just SO welcome but now they're finally right! I'm finally hearing these for the first time properly and while they might not be another Passion Play or TAAB, there's a lot here to love!

That Stand Up album. I'm normally more attracted to the proggy stuff that went into high gear on TAAB and Passion Play. But something about Stand Up is so timeless sounding to me. The first time I ever heard it it became a favorite. I only ever warmed up to This Was after the SW remix. Listening to it originally was more like checking it off a to do list. Was always kind of chilly to Benefit too. Warming up to it a bit more in recent times though.

Anyone else have a relationship with the Living In The Past collection and put that back together for yourself?
 

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While I don't imagine that SW would be involved, has anyone heard if there are any plans to continue on with Tull reissues? Or is Ian pretty much done figuring there wouldn't be much market for the 80s stuff?
According to this post, a book set reissue of A is definitely in the works. In an interview from a few years ago, Steven mentioned that Broadsword could be a possibility as well.
Mettler: So we’ve recently gotten in hand the surround version you’ve done for Songs From the Wood (1977), and I imagine Heavy Horses (1978) will soon follow. What comes after that? Is it A (1980), or The Broadsword and the Beast (1982)?

Wilson: Stormwatch (1979) would be next.

Mettler: Right, right. Would you do Stormwatch in 5.1, if Ian Anderson asked you to do it?

Wilson: I would. In terms of future Jethro Tull — hopefully Heavy Horses early next year, and Stormwatch hopefully sometime late next year. After that, I honestly can’t say.

Mettler: Understood. Was The Broadsword and the Beast an album that was on your radar?

Wilson: It’s an album I know, and I like it, so that could be something, yeah. And I do love that this stuff comes to me to do, but I’m proactive too. I’ll go out there and I’ll try to talk people into letting me have a go at their catalog.
I seem to recall Ian mentioning a while back that Jakko would be his choice take over the remixing duties if SW doesn't want to keep doing them?
 

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Anyone else have a relationship with the Living In The Past collection and put that back together for yourself?
Almost, I have a HD Stereo and MCH mix of Living In The Past culled from the remix releases; although I am missing TAAB ...
 
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