Jim Gordon, Derek & The Dominoes Drummer, Dead at 77

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From UltimateClassic.Rock.com-
Jim Gordon, the drummer for Derek and the Dominos and a prolific session musician, who was later convicted of murdering his mother, has died at the age of 77.

Gordon’s passing was confirmed via press release, which noted he died of “natural causes” following “a long incarceration and lifelong battle with mental illness.”

Gordon was born and raised in Los Angeles. At 17, he was offered a scholarship to UCLA’s music program, but turned it down to instead join up with the Everly Brothers. So began a career that saw Gordon behind the drum kit for some of rock’s most celebrated releases.

As a member of the Wrecking Crew group of session musicians, Gordon played on such classic LPs as the Beach BoysPet Sounds and The Notorious Byrd Brothers by the Byrds.

In 1969 Gordon met Eric Clapton, as both musicians played in the backing band for Delaney & Bonnie. Clapton would later take Gordon – along with bassist Carl Radle and keyboardist Bobby Whitlock – for his new group, Derek and the Dominos. They first served as the backing band for George Harrison’s All Things Must Pass before recording their own, seminal album.

The group’s 1970 double LP, Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs, would become a landmark release, regularly ranked among the greatest rock albums of all time. Gordon played drums on all of the tracks, and even contributed piano on the album’s iconic single, "Layla,” which he co-wrote with Clapton.

Derek and the Dominos broke up in 1971 and never finished recording their second album. Gordon remained an in-demand drummer for many years, working with Joe Cocker’s Mad Dogs and Englishmen, Traffic, Harry Nilsson and Frank Zappa. Gordon played Art Garfunkel’s 1973 album Angel Clare, Steely Dan's Pretzel Logic (1974) and contributed to three tracks on Alice Cooper's 1976 LP, Alice Cooper Goes to Hell. His further career credits included work with Crosby, Stills & Nash, Jackson Browne, Neil Diamond, Hall & Oates, Randy Newman, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and John Lennon (that’s Gordon playing on “Power to the People”).

Though Gordon’s career was certainly impressive, his life took a dark and tragic side.

On June 3, 1983, Gordon stabbed and killed his 72-year-old mother. The drummer claimed that a voice inside his head told him to do it. After his arrest, the musician was diagnosed with schizophrenia. He was later sentenced to 16 years to life in prison. Despite being eligible for parole since 1991, he remained incarcerated until the end of his life. Reports indicated Gordon was "seriously psychologically incapacitated" and "a danger when he is not taking his medication.”
 
RIP

Layla is in my 100 favorite & most played albums. Bought a dozen different ones, incl 2 boxes and two surround mixes. Also complete on Delaney & Bonnie, incl Rhino Handmade On Tour box. As discussed in the article, Gordon played on many classic albums.

He was a tortured soul who deserves our prayers.
 
He has the best sound in Derek & The Dominos-In Concert, the drum sound is super good and he is playing great, a very good album for me for years.
That's him, the big guy on the right, peace in heaven brother.
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RIP

A very sad & tragic life, after such a profound and prolific musical contribution. And a lot of drugs.

According to Bobby Whitlock, Gordon lifted that Layla piano bit from one of his girlfriends, who was a singer songwriter.
Yes. I understand that the girlfriend that they lifted the Layla piano outro from was none other than Rita Coolidge. I've heard different versions of the story but most recently I read that Rita and Jim had written a song and she played it on piano for Clapton. Clapton initially passed on the song. Later that segment showed up on the end of Layla. She tried unsuccessfully to get a writing credit.
 
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September 1972, Grand Wazoo Tour 1:25 / 2:43


I was fortunate to see, doomed, tortured Jim Gordon in his prime, and that's how I will always remember him.
Not the guy who obviously needed help, but for many reasons didn't get enough or the right kind to save him.

I got to see him with the Petite Wazoo band in early December after this footage was shot.
He was obviously high-functioning at that time, or Frank Zappa would have fired his ass without a second thought.

For that pared-down 10-piece unit, Gordon was the sole time keeper.
He had to follow Zappa's conducting, the odd time signatures and tempo changes of the repertoire.

I give thanks I lived long enough to hear that music again on CD 3 & 4 of the Waka / Wazoo box.
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I feel no sympathy. There something inherently evil about someone who kills his mother.
You are very fortunate if you have never known, been around or had a family member with severe chronic schizophrenia.
I have. I sincerely hope it never happens to you or anybody, but it does.

Unfortunate Jim Gordon was no Charlie Manson.
He was mis-diagnosed and treated for alcohol abuse.
That is a symptom of the disease, that people try to self-medicate.
They didn't have effective pharmaceutical therapy in those days.

I would like to think his mother forgave her child with a diseased brain that made him think she was a threat to him.
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You are very fortunate if you have never known, been around or had a family member with severe chronic schizophrenia.
I have. I sincerely hope it never happens to you or anybody, but it does.
Dave, my family has had persons dealing with mental health issues. And for one direct family member it came to a horrible end. I would surmise that everyone has at least one direct or extended family member dealing with mental health concerns. But understand that recent events have depleted my tolerance for the taking of innocent life.
 
Last I read the disturbed drummer was incarcerated at the Vacaville, California facility where Charles Manson was kept for awhile before being sent to a run-of-the-mill incarceration institution. To be kept at Vacaville for the duration of his incarceration is indicative of a true real no-doubt-about-it mental deviation.
 
Dave, my family has had persons dealing with mental health issues. And for one direct family member it came to a horrible end. I would surmise that everyone has at least one direct or extended family member dealing with mental health concerns. But understand that recent events have depleted my tolerance for the taking of innocent life.
I totally get where you’re coming from and I certainly am not going to make excuses for someone committing homicide. Schizophrenia is a particularly terrible disease and, even so, it’s rare for it to lead to a person committing such a terrible act. All people sharing the same mental illness diagnosis, however, are not the same, and Gordon’s degree of illness had to be at the extreme end of the spectrum. Of course, that comes as no consolation to his late mother and others who loved her.
 
I have had a couple of friends who suffer(ed) from severe schizophrenia and it is truly sad and confounding to witness. One of them committed himself because he couldn't cope (this was over 20 years ago) and, after a couple of weeks of treatment, he came back to work completely "normal" but after another couple of weeks, he was back to being out of his mind and had to move back in with his parents and receive in depth treatment.

My other friend, Matthew, does fine as long as he stays on his meds and he is a very funny, smart guy.

Doug
 
We've turned this thread into Psychology Today!

Some good discussions and a great degree of insight. There are a million things I don't know about the human mind. I opted out of grad school for Psych or Law. No doubt related to my insatiable appetite for music & hifi gear. Seeds of a 20-year hi-fi career!

Upon retirement, I facilitated seven support groups for teens, and another two for adults simultaneously. One adult group was founded by a therapist who enlisted me upon beginning her doctoral program. They were all her clients except me.

Had people of all genders, races, sexualities, ages, etc. Schizophrenia, addiction, bi-polar, family disintegration, and suicide ideation were among issues we dealt with. Groups were open to anyone, regardless of means. No charge. Many had multiple issues, often unrelated such as physical and/or intellectual disabilities.

Chemical imbalances in the brain can often be controlled w/meds. Consumers sometimes unwisely choose discontinuing meds. They might self medicate. Either of these paths can easily result in tragedy.

No, I don't condone murder. Most countries have an enlightened view and a legal definition of insanity. This differs from clinical definitions. Innocent by reason of insanity mostly results in institutional confinement, rather than imprisonment. In US, it is predicated on ability to distinguish right from wrong.

"There but for fortune go you or I." Phil Ochs
 
I don't know if this obituary (from the Guardian) is any more thorough or sensitive than the one @5.1 4 Life posted, but it includes a few more of Gordon's credits, including the Shadows' "Apache." Jazz pianist Ethan Iverson linked to it from a recent Substack post, where he mentions Gordon's work on the Glen Campbell/Jimmy Webb classic "Wichita Lineman." (The bassist on that track, the legendary Wrecking Crew mainstay Carol Kaye, just turned 88.)
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/mar/17/jim-gordon-obituary
 
I don't know if this obituary (from the Guardian) is any more thorough or sensitive than the one @5.1 4 Life posted, but it includes a few more of Gordon's credits, including the Shadows' "Apache." Jazz pianist Ethan Iverson linked to it from a recent Substack post, where he mentions Gordon's work on the Glen Campbell/Jimmy Webb classic "Wichita Lineman." (The bassist on that track, the legendary Wrecking Crew mainstay Carol Kaye, just turned 88.)
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/mar/17/jim-gordon-obituary
I just took a look at his partial discography on Wikipedia. The man's 'drum prints' are all over my record collection.
 
I don't know if this obituary (from the Guardian) is any more thorough or sensitive than the one @5.1 4 Life posted, but it includes a few more of Gordon's credits, including the Shadows' "Apache." Jazz pianist Ethan Iverson linked to it from a recent Substack post, where he mentions Gordon's work on the Glen Campbell/Jimmy Webb classic "Wichita Lineman." (The bassist on that track, the legendary Wrecking Crew mainstay Carol Kaye, just turned 88.)
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/mar/17/jim-gordon-obituary
The obit for Jim Gordon in The Guardian does have a few more credits for Gordon's work that I was unaware of (such as his playing on The Shadows' "Apache").
 
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