Didn’t know Lawrence Welk had a Quad releaseChecking in to offer this update...starting with the info in this thread, I made the following swaps documented in the list below:
BERRY,chuck...London Sessions...Chess C 7033-60020...SWAP1-3 GRT
BLACK SABBATH...Paranoid...Warner Bro. L9W-1887...SWAP2-3
CROCE,jim...I Got a Name...ABC C 7022-797...SWAP1-3 GRT
CROCE,jim...You Don't Mess Around with Jim...ABC C 7022-756...SWAP1-3 GRT
CYMANDE...Second Time Around...Janus Records C 7098-3054...SWAP2-3 GRT
FOCUS...Moving Waves...Sire C 7147-7401...SWAP2-3 GRT
FOCUS...Live at the Rainbow...Sire C 7147-7408...SWAP1-3 GRT
FOUR TOPS,the...Keeper of the Castle...ABC 7023-50129...SWAP1-3 GRT
FOUR TOPS,the...Main Street People...Dunhill 7023-50144H...SWAP1-3 GRT
FRANKLIN,aretha...Live at the Fillmore West...Atlantic QT-7205...SWAP2-3
GRAHAM CENTRAL STA...Ain't No 'Bout-a-Doubt It...Warner Bro. L9B 2763...SWAP2-4
GRASS ROOTS,the...Their 16 Greatest Hits...Dunhill ABC C 7023-50107...SWAP1-3 GRT
HOOKER, john lee...Never Get Out of These Blues Alive...ABC C 7022-736...SWAP1-3 GRT
JAMAL,ahmad...Heat Wave...Cadet 7035-777C...SWAP1-3 GRT
KING,b.b....L.A. Midnight...ABC C 7022-743...SWAP1-3 GRT
mongo SANTAMARIA...Mongo at Montreux...Atlantic L 71593...SWAP2-3
MOTTOLA,tony...Guitar...Paris...GRT C 7145-40001...SWAP1-3 GRT
MOUNTAIN...The Best of Mountain...Windfall C 7119-32079...SWAP2-3 GRT
MOUNTAIN...Flowers of Evil Live...Windfall M 7119-5501 B...SWAP1-3 GRT
MOUNTAIN...Flowers of Evil Sessions...Windfall 7119-5501 A...SWAP1-3 GRT
OHIO PLAYERS...Ecstasy...Westbound C 7198-2021...SWAP1-3 GRT
PRESLEY,elvis...On Stage—February, 1970...RCA PQ8-1594...SWAP1-3 [Canadian]
STEELY DAN...Countdown to Ecstasy...ABC C 7022-799...SWAP1-3 GRT
terry SNYDER & the All Stars...Persuasive Percussion...Command C 7145-40000...SWAP1-3 GRT
tommy JAMES & THE SHONDELLS...Best Of...[Unknown]...SWAP1-3 GRT
Various Artists...12x6 The Easy Way V. 2...Cadet 7035-60022 H...SWAP1-3 GRT
WALSH,joe...The Smoker You Drink,...ABC Dunhill C 7023-50140...SWAP1-3 GRT
WELK,lawrence...Candida...Ranwood C 7058-8083...SWAP1-3 GRT
My copy CAQ 31996 sounds deliberate to me. It's an odd mix with the drums mostly spread across the rears and everything else across the fronts. It seems like they chose to master it that way instead of it being a mastering anomaly/channel swap error.Does the Mahavishnu Orchestra Birds of Fire Q8 merit being listed? Has anyone here actually heard it?
quick question: i am listening to zz top / tres hombres (r.i.p. dusty hill) and on the 1st song i hear vocals across the LF & RF. but, i have drums in the LF and RR ... does it make sense to assume this is an error, and the rear channels should be swapped? that would give me vocals across the front and drums along the left side ... anyone have the q4 or album to refer to for me? thanks!I firmly believe there are a number of RCA titles as well that have channel errors.
The Guess Who - American Woman: Track 1 of the original Q8 has a channel error but Track 2 is good.
The Archies - Sugar, Sugar: Hard to tell as many song feature vocals in all four channels, but some have lead vocals only in two. I really don't think any engineer would mix lead vocals in Front Left and Rear Right, so I believe those to be the front channels. On many songs, this will place lead vocals in the front and backing vocals all around. I don't believe all songs on this tape came from multitrack sources as a few seem to be just the stereo mix turned sideways, so the front channels are the stereo "left" channel and the rears are the stereo "right" channel.
Elvis - On Stage, 1970: Again, super subtle mix and really hard to tell, but as it stands, the opening song "C.C. Rider" has the guitar solo freak out and just bop all over the room.
Couldn't one approximate a figure 8 pan with a joystick?Eye opening alright! There are the tricky parts in mastering sometimes... A difficult harshness that turns to muddy when you try to go after it with any eq. Some dynamics that are a little too much but every compressor you try makes it sound like a generational tape copy. Frustrating...
Nope, none of that! Got the damn channels in the wrong order! Yep!
It really illustrates how things can go so wildly incredibly wrong as soon as a recording is put into the hands of one single person who is not a musician! (Audio engineers are all musicians. Regardless if they ever learned to play an instrument other than the mixing board too. And very high level musicians at that!) Take your eye off of it for a split second when one of the marketing guys is nearby and suddenly it's getting messed with and degraded 7 ways from Tuesday.
Some of the early quad mixes were pretty experimental. The only real hard solid clue is when something was clearly supposed to be a 360 deg pan. And you're reasonably positive that it wasn't supposed to be figure 8! If for no other reason than that no one made a hardware figure 8 panner at the time. (Um... No one made a hardware figure 8 panner back then, right? What would that even look like?) For the fast 360 deg pans where you can tell someone was cranking a joystick around as fast as they could.