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Marillion "Script for a Jester's Tear" (Deluxe Edition with 5.1 Blu-Ray!)

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SHB

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I received my copy in Atlanta, GA on Wednesday. I order from the band (to support the band) and they shipped it out March 19.

That was the fastest delivery I have received from anything originating out of the U.K./EU since I moved down from NYto GA. Other orders have typically been taking 2 weeks.

If you didn’t order it from the band or Fish, I think you are in for a much longer wait.
I ordered from the band too and received notification it was shipped on the 19th. Wow! Good for you.
 

sjcorne

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Have yet to receive my copy, but I did get a chance to preview the surround tracks thanks to a kind fellow member. Unfortunately, my initial impressions are the same as @svengaleekie and @MCDave - what a disappointment. This mix is so conservative it makes Bradfield & Mackintosh’s Clutching At Straws seem adventurous by comparison.

Aside from the occasional sound effect (the man speaking at the end of “Chelsea Monday”, for instance), the rears contain little more than ambient echo and a very subtle guitar or keyboard part. The upmix I did from the old stereo CD a few months ago often has more separation than this new mix from the multis.

There are so many missed opportunities. Take for example, “He Knows You Know” - the lead AND backing vocals are isolated in the center channel. To me, it seems like a no-brainer to put the “he knows...” line in the rears and have Fish’s “...you know” respond from the center channel.

"He Knows You Know":
He Knows You Know.jpg


The quiet middle section of the title track (“I act the role in classic style…”) is totally relegated to the front channels when it could have sounded very cool and 3-D spread out around the room. I got quite a bit out of that section just from working with the stereo.

"Script For A Jester's Tear" 4:00 - 6:00 (New 5.1 Mix):
Script Middle (5.1).jpg


"Script For A Jester's Tear" 4:00 - 6:00 (5.1 Upmix):
Script Middle (Upmix).jpg


“Forgotten Sons” is probably the most interesting track from a surround perspective, but it’s still not even close to what could have been. The section from around 2:15 - 3:00 (“your mother sits on the edge of the world…”) has the TV announcer in the front and Fish in the rears. The prayer section has the voices in the rears and the “minister, minister” bit goes around the room. At the end, you can clearly hear the children singing “ring around the rosies” in the right rear. Again, I was able to get many of those same elements mostly in the rears by manipulating the original stereo mix.

"Forgotten Sons":
Forgotten Sons.jpg


As for the remix itself, the biggest changes I noticed are that the bass guitar has been brought up much higher in the mix, and the overall stereo image seems to have been narrowed. All the elements that were hard-panned left or right in the old stereo mix are now maybe 50% left or right of center. I didn't notice any alternate vocals or instrumentation. On the plus side, the overall sound quality is definitely improved from the original and it’s fun to hear Fish’s vocals isolated in the center speaker.

Curious to hear other thoughts as more members receive their copies, but I’m really let down :(
 
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cbmmm3

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okay. so I had a listen. my humble opinion. subliminally very good ! Yes - its all Front End forward. Very little surround tits. But - Rothery is so clear. Fish is so clear and Pete is up front. At the volume.... my wife would allow, I like it. Guys - its a - what 1982 or 1983 - recording. You are not going to fidget too much with surround unless it was originally in quad ( its not ) from the tapes of that era. Its an interesting remaster that begs some more listen
 

splinter7

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Hope this isn't going to be the same issue for Ammonia Avenue standalone from ImportCD.

Not saying that I know anything or whatever.
Not sure how Cherry Red/Esoteric distribute their wares.
 
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