Mike Oldfield Crises 5.1 mix

[winopener]

Visiting a friend yesterday i had the luck to see he had the deluxe boxset for Crises, with the 5.1 dvd.
Had a listen yesterday in his house and today on mine, and... got a some WTF moments.

The title track goes ok for the most part, the BIG problems are on the former Side 2.

Moonlight Shadow: extra parts, extra intro, extra outro, something missing, but... it lacks punch, some sound textures are missing in action. It doesn't sound like a potential hit single at all. What went wrong?
In High Places: always skipped that
Foreign Affair: here again with extra sounds not presents on the stereo version, but less distracting. Lacks a bit of punch here too...
Taurus 3: ok enough
Shadow On The Wall: same situation as MS. Depressing.

Don't know what went wrong when MO mixed that, but i do really prefer a upmix someone else did at least 10 years ago.

 

[rtbluray]

I'd love to get my hands on one of these box sets to judge the 5.1 mix for myself

 

[Scott65]

I'd love to get my hands on one of these box sets to judge the 5.1 mix for myself

That's what I really like about The Mission by Styx and The Secret by Alan Parsons - no nonsense packages.

 

[R E Faust]

Love this album, the original stereo mix is great. Was really looking forward to this box set and bought it on the day of release.

I think the 5.1 is a total abomination....and side one is just as bad as side two. Starts out ok but the wonderful section right after the 'watcher and the tower' vocal is utterly ruined. Shame...

I may sell my box set as it gets no play.

R E Faust

 

[skherbeck]

Well, I guess I'm in the minority, but I remember really enjoying this surround mix (but I had never heard the stereo mix prior to hearing the surround)... guess I'll have to go back and listen again...

 

[winopener]

Love this album, the original stereo mix is great. Was really looking forward to this box set and bought it on the day of release.
I think the 5.1 is a total abomination....and side one is just as bad as side two. Starts out ok but the wonderful section right after the 'watcher and the tower' vocal is utterly ruined. Shame...

I've noticed myself the variations on the side1, but these are not so striking as MS/SOTW.
At least i hasn't been the only one to have these WTF moments...

 

[rtbluray]

Love this album, the original stereo mix is great. Was really looking forward to this box set and bought it on the day of release.

I think the 5.1 is a total abomination....and side one is just as bad as side two. Starts out ok but the wonderful section right after the 'watcher and the tower' vocal is utterly ruined. Shame...

I may sell my box set as it gets no play.

R E Faust

Sent you a PM about potentially buying your copy.

 

[andi-999]

Visiting a friend yesterday i had the luck to see he had the deluxe boxset for Crises, with the 5.1 dvd.
Had a listen yesterday in his house and today on mine, and... got a some WTF moments.

The title track goes ok for the most part, the BIG problems are on the former Side 2.

Moonlight Shadow: extra parts, extra intro, extra outro, something missing, but... it lacks punch, some sound textures are missing in action. It doesn't sound like a potential hit single at all. What went wrong?
In High Places: always skipped that
Foreign Affair: here again with extra sounds not presents on the stereo version, but less distracting. Lacks a bit of punch here too...
Taurus 3: ok enough
Shadow On The Wall: same situation as MS. Depressing.

Don't know what went wrong when MO mixed that, but i do really prefer a upmix someone else did at least 10 years ago.

Hi,

did you listen to the DD 5.1 or the DTS 5.1 versions? I have ripped the 5.1 DTS tracks to FLAC and to me all songs sound alright.

Cheers,
Andreas

 

[winopener]

DTS 5.1

 

[PmikeK]

where can I buy all the box sets?

 

[The Bright Side]

where can I buy all the box sets?

The OOP Crises deluxe box set is available used on discogs for about 175 Dollars.
https://www.discogs.com/de/Mike-Oldfield-Crises/release/4874207
The other albums' 5.1 mixes are easier to obtain, because they came in 2-disc sets. I think all the other studio albums from debut to Discovery came in such packages, but Incantations and Discovery only had a few of the tracks in 5.1, not all of them. Should all still be on Amazon.

 

[Marplot]

Return To Ommadawn is also available in 5.1. It and Tubular Bells are the easiest to find without getting gouged. Heck, they are part of the 3 for 2 on Amazon.de. https://www.amazon.de/gp/promotion/A1U6JFFEDCOGXA?ref_=sopp_psp_A1U6JFFEDCOGXA

 

[PmikeK]

The OOP Crises deluxe box set is available used on discogs for about 175 Dollars.
https://www.discogs.com/de/Mike-Oldfield-Crises/release/4874207
The other albums' 5.1 mixes are easier to obtain, because they came in 2-disc sets. I think all the other studio albums from debut to Discovery came in such packages, but Incantations and Discovery only had a few of the tracks in 5.1, not all of them. Should all still be on Amazon.

not on amazon uk, checked already. Will check Germany.

 

[Marplot]

https://www.amazon.de/gp/promotion/A1U6JFFEDCOGXA?ref_=sopp_psp_A1U6JFFEDCOGXASelect CDs & Vinyl
On the left side scroll down to Artist, hit See more and Select Mike Oldfield.
As part of the Buy 2 get 3. (QE2 is 2 CD, no 5.1) this will let you get:
Return to Ommadawn https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01N2R4RN2?ref_=plp_pc_dp_A1U6JFFEDCOGXA_B01N2R4RN2&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
Tubular Bells https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0026S1XDM?ref_=plp_pc_dp_A1U6JFFEDCOGXA_B0026S1XDM&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF

Other possible choices:
INXS Kick 30 https://www.amazon.de/dp/B075MZ1892?ref_=plp_pc_dp_A1U6JFFEDCOGXA_B075MZ1892&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
The Moody Blues Days Of Future Past https://www.amazon.de/dp/B076492ZVC?ref_=plp_pc_dp_A1U6JFFEDCOGXA_B076492ZVC&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF

Amazon UK has additional 5.1 releases available; mostly from 3rd party
Discovery https://www.amazon.co.uk/Discovery-...168&sprefix=mike+oldfield+disc&sr=8-1&x=0&y=0
Five Miles Out https://www.amazon.co.uk/Five-Miles...qid=1481711390&sr=1-1&keywords=five+miles+out
Hergest Ridge https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hergest-Ri...&qid=1481710972&sr=1-2&keywords=hergest+ridge
Incantations https://www.amazon.co.uk/Incantatio...481711194&sr=1-1&keywords=incantations+deluxe
They had an Ommadawn for 14 USD but I grabbed it.

 

[PmikeK]

https://www.amazon.de/gp/promotion/A1U6JFFEDCOGXA?ref_=sopp_psp_A1U6JFFEDCOGXASelect CDs & Vinyl
On the left side scroll down to Artist, hit See more and Select Mike Oldfield.
As part of the Buy 2 get 3. (QE2 is 2 CD, no 5.1) this will let you get:
Return to Ommadawn https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01N2R4RN2?ref_=plp_pc_dp_A1U6JFFEDCOGXA_B01N2R4RN2&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
Tubular Bells https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0026S1XDM?ref_=plp_pc_dp_A1U6JFFEDCOGXA_B0026S1XDM&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF

Other possible choices:
INXS Kick 30 https://www.amazon.de/dp/B075MZ1892?ref_=plp_pc_dp_A1U6JFFEDCOGXA_B075MZ1892&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
The Moody Blues Days Of Future Past https://www.amazon.de/dp/B076492ZVC?ref_=plp_pc_dp_A1U6JFFEDCOGXA_B076492ZVC&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF

Amazon UK has additional 5.1 releases available; mostly from 3rd party
Discovery https://www.amazon.co.uk/Discovery-...168&sprefix=mike+oldfield+disc&sr=8-1&x=0&y=0
Five Miles Out https://www.amazon.co.uk/Five-Miles...qid=1481711390&sr=1-1&keywords=five+miles+out
Hergest Ridge https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hergest-Ri...&qid=1481710972&sr=1-2&keywords=hergest+ridge
Incantations https://www.amazon.co.uk/Incantatio...481711194&sr=1-1&keywords=incantations+deluxe
They had an Ommadawn for 14 USD but I grabbed it.

CHEERS

 

[PmikeK]

Any more as part of offer?

 

[Marplot]

Any more as part of offer?

Oldfield? Just QE2 which has 2 CD, no 5.1
Other than Kick and Days I linked, there is also 2112 5.1 DVD/CD https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00A2BTCM4?ref_=plp_pc_dp_A1U6JFFEDCOGXA_B00A2BTCM4&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
I am not aware of any more 5.1 on the list, but it is easy to miss.

 

[WBP]

I think Mike approaches the remixes in a similar way to how Frank Zappa did, its their music , a new medium to work with and it is a chance to re-arrange and present their material in a different way , the original mixes will always be available after all for purists. It is not to everybody's taste but they are the composers after all. I like the Crises remix overall and love the fact that the composer takes the trouble to be involved.

 

[Owen Smith]

Yes but this makes the Mike Oldfield stuff a complete re-arrangement not just a re-mix, which just happens to be in 5.1. If you want the original arrangement in a new surround mix (which is what I'd like) you're out of luck. I've heard Tubular Bells 5.1 and my reaction was "what was he thinking?". Fortunately I have the quad SACD.

 

[rtbluray]

I can’t believe it! I just won the rare Mike Oldfield “Crises” box set on eBay for $100! And especially since both of the DVDs (including the one with the 5.1 mix on it) are still sealed!