Wow ! I'm very glad because I have this DVD Single and I thought that "Not Falling" was absolutely brilliant in this 5.1 mix. Spectacular bass treatment, and no cheesy effects - the rears are there just when needed (this is something particularly true with metal music - otherwise you ruin its energy). That's why I was secretly praying for the same treatment for the whole albumThomC said:Briefly, I delivered 48k/24 bit masters.
I believe it is Dolby at that rate, (but don't know for sure as I don't have this disc).
I was hired because I had done the 5.1 mix of "Not Falling" that was released as a
DVD Single some time back.
Well, if the whole surround treatment is as good as the "Not Falling" one on the DVD Single, I understand they approvedThomC said:Neither the band nor David were there for the mix, though the band did listen to and
approve the mixes for release, (after I did a couple of tweeks).
The only way I am adding discs is if I actually see them in the stores. I bought this one. Was going to buy Lost & Found as well but Best Buy had NONE!! It was the one on sale and they had NONE!! They had about 100 copies of TEOATTC but that was $13.99. Bonus that the mix is done by Thom C. So Thom... you're not credited anywhere that I can see. A first on all the DualDiscs I have... Is your mix the original 5.1 mix or did you do a completely different 5.1 mix for a re-release?ThomC said:Actually, this disc does exist.
With new 5.1 mixes, (By me! )
Struggled with this mix a bit, but I hope you guys like it.
Bob,Bob Romano said:...So Thom... you're not credited anywhere that I can see. A first on all the DualDiscs I have....
Only mixed each song once, "Not Falling" is the same mix on both releases.Bob Romano said:Is your mix the original 5.1 mix or did you do a completely different 5.1 mix for a re-release?
On the one hand, why buy something you don't like just because it's 5.1?Bob Romano said:By the way... not a big Mudvayne fan but it is surround so I gave it a shot.
As YmSeb noted, it is very easy to lose the power of the music by pulling the individual pieces apart.Bob Romano said:...So what exactly were your struggles with the mix... if you can say.
Right , but we're only at the beginning of the music in surround area, and it would be cool if we, the consumers, were able to read in the liners who did the surround mix, because this way we can see who we like or not... there is still too much 5.1 releases (whatever the format) with no credits for the surround mix ! This is a shame. Sometimes, like with Silverline, the mix has been done by a machine, so shame on them anywayThomC said:Bob,
The only credit I really care about is the one in my bank account!!!
Very interesting quote. I always wondered :ThomC said:Much of the sound of a band like this comes from density not clarity.
It's not a very easy thing to do, staying musically and sonicly true to the original,
while still trying to make something interesting enough to warrant the money being spent to make a new version.
I'm like Bob. I'll buy just about anything released in surround-sound. I'm actually embarrassed to admit some of the crap I've bought. Personally, my main reason is to support ALL surround-sound releases! More crap coming out usually means more good stuff as well!ThomC said:On the one hand, why buy something you don't like just because it's 5.1?
On the other hand, I think it's great that you're trying different genres.
Very interesting perspective. That makes a lot of sense. However, I don't think that a surround presentation has to match the stereo presentation. If the stereo presentation is the true product, then the surround presentation can be thought of as a "behind the scenes" view of that product. Actually, I enjoy comparing stereo mixes to surround mixes. The surround mix gives the listener insight into how the stereo mix was constructed. As a recording engineer, perhaps this privilege gets taken for granted. It gives us humble consumers a small view into your world, and is something I place a great deal of value on! For this reason, I generally prefer a more discrete mix, offering greater clarity to the individual elements of the mix.ThomC said:Much of the sound of a band like this comes from density not clarity.