Anyone know if this set is true 5.1 ... or just ambient reverb in rear / upmixes? Silverline label frightened me away when I saw it, and already owned the double CD set at the time.
RIP: Peter Green founder of FleetwoodMac
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Just about all those SILVERLINE DVD~As from the Sanctuary Records label were faux surround and considering when this album was recorded by the BBC, doubtful if it was remixed in any form of discrete surround.
Agreed, but the music is cool and it's Peter Green with the original Fleetwood Mac. I'm not saying that you should run out and buy it, however, given the death of Mr. Green, I had to pull it out for another listen.
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ABSOLUTELY. For the heck of it try playing it in DVD~A STEREO. IMO, a LOT of those fake Silverlines DO SOUND BETTER IN STEREO [96/24].
watsontr
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You may need the Blue Horizon Box set and Then Play On to get lots of Mr Green with FM. A persistent example of where taste and style beats flashy stuff every time. The Anthology - Peter Green is another fine collection
sixandnine
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Spinning The End Of The Game right now, an album I prefer less than his earlier blues outings, but that I respect for its fearless grasping of thorny experimentation. He gave real meaning to the term 'British Blues Explosion'. His music certainly exceeding its own boundaries, spiralling in so many directions as it did and has done.
For some reason I find consolation in the fact he ended his days on Canvey Island.
For some reason I find consolation in the fact he ended his days on Canvey Island.
I've Then Play On, I'll have to look up the Blue Horizon set.
watsontr
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When my wife was teaching in Vietnam and Singapore for extended periods of time, the multiple takes of Need Your Love So bad were on near constant rotation. Albatross, Jigsaw Puzzle Blues and Black Magic Woman too! So much so that my daughter then referred to it as my "sad bastard" (High Fidelity ref) music.
BTW, the space and delivery of FM's original take on BMW (not to mention PG's beautiful, soulful guitar) will always trump the apparently better known cover for me every time.
I agree that many of the surround mixes on Silverline DVD-A's are faux and not that good; however I have found the fidelity on all the Silverline discs to be very good to excellent. So that might be a reason to get this one. R.I.P. Peter Green.
So sad about Peter Green. A huge influence - his tone, dynamics, the subtlety and nuance of both his playing and singing. I still listen to him often and have recorded some of his and Danny Kirwan's songs. As others have said, the Blue Horizon box is the way to go if you can find it. Rest In Peace, good sir.
The56Kid
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The Blue Horizon Box is the bomb for prime Green in FM. I spun CD 6 from the box yesterday which features a bunch of previously unreleased material and it was an amazing experience listening to Peter’s superlative playing and singing. When Peter played the blues, you believed him.
I love the early FM records. R.I.P. Mr. Green.
I looked at the Blue Horizon set on amazon way too much! So looked at the listing on Discogs and realised I had 2 of the studio albums on CD already, so back to amazon to complete my early 'Mac I have just got Chicago Blues Vol 1 & 2, and (Peter Green's) Fleetwood Mac, though obviously missing Disc-6 from the set, its only cost me £18 to get the rest.
DaveLaPorte53
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One of my first concerts was Peter Green and Fleetwood Mac. On the Boston commons. Green Manalishi my all time great songs.
He wrote Peter Greenbaum when he signed my "In The Skies" album at his first comeback show at Wilbert's in Cleveland in '98. The music was good but he was just going thru the motions. Was sad to see because I am a long time fan.
A lot of Peter's tone was due to the famous out of phase Humbucker pick ups on his Les Paul; of course the real magic was the man himself. Here's the story from (I believe) the current owner, Hammett, from an online article. (I didn't link it 'cause it's full of pop-ups 
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Kirk Hammett Talks About His Prize: Peter Green and Gary Moore's Les Paul
Hammett, a fan of both guitarists, purchased the guitar for a reported $2 million. In the clip below from VH-1’s That After Show, Hammett talks about the guitar during a roundtable with guitarists Michael Schenker and Damon Johnson, of Thin Lizzy and Black Star Riders.
“It’d been on the market for a few years,” Hammett says, “but the price was just way too high. “And then I kind of waltzed into a situation where the owner of the guitar needed money. And of course I totally took advantage of the situation, worked out a deal and bought it, all within an hour’s time, because I was so friggin’ blown away by the fact that I was holding a guitar that Peter Green played in Fleetwood Mac and then Gary Moore played for, like, 25 years after.”
As Hammett notes, part of this particular guitar’s mystique is down to its distinctive warm-but-trebly tone. “It’s a unique guitar in that the pickup is turned around,” he says. “It’s facing the opposite way, so when you play with both pickups on in the middle position, it creates an out-of-phase sound that sounds like a Fender Stratocaster.” Green attributed the tone to his own tinkering, claiming he’d reversed a magnet in the neck-position humbucker. In another telling of the story, a repairmen accidentally rewound one of the pickups—it’s not certain which—in reverse.
This is the version Hammett tells in the video. In all likelihood, the alteration occurred during the guitar’s manufacture. Noted guitar designer and builder Jol Dantzig had a chance to examine the guitar firsthand in June 1984, while it was owned by Moore, and found that “the magnet was reversed on one pickup,” he wrote. “Because the pickup internals looked undisturbed, I concluded that it must have been a mistake at the factory.”
Dantzig adds that Joe Bonamassa owns an original-condition Burst with the same error. Green bought the Les Paul second-hand for the equivalent of $300 and used it during his time with John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers when he took over from Eric Clapton. He continued to play it when he formed Fleetwood Mac in July 1967 with former Bluesbreaker bassist John McVie and drummer Mick Fleetwood, using it to write and record many of the band’s greatest songs, including “Oh Well,” “The Green Manalishi (With the Two-Prong Crown),” “Albatross” and “Black Magic Woman.” Shortly before he left Fleetwood Mac in 1970, Green loaned the guitar to Moore, who at the time was in his teens and still unknown.
The Irish guitarist had been a fan of Green’s and befriended the guitarist. Moore eventually purchased the Les Paul at Green’s request—so that “it would have a good home,” Green said—for about $300, the same price Green paid for it. Moore used the guitar for much of his career, including on his 1973 solo debut, and during his 1974 stint in Thin Lizzy and his tenure with Colosseum II from 1975 to 1978. The guitar can also be heard on “Parisienne Walkways,” Moore’s best-known song, from his 1978 album, Back on the Streets. Money problems forced Moore to sell the guitar in 2006 for somewhere between $750,000 and $1.2 million, according to various reports online.
It was purchased by Phil Winfield at Maverick Music and, reportedly, later put up for sale on the company's website for $2 million. Since then it has been owned by one or more private collectors before Hammett purchased it in 2014 from Richard Henry Guitars. When a fan asked Hammett via Twitter why he bought it he replied, “The best tribute is that it’s being played again instead of being neglected by people who only bought it for the investment.” Hammett has been seen performing with the guitar to play Metallica’s cover of “Whiskey in the Jar,” the traditional Irish song popularized as a rock song by Thin Lizzy in the early Seventies.
The clip also includes a conversation with Schenker about his choice of the Gibson Flying V, the model most associated with him. In addition, below this video, you can see the Peter Green Les Paul in action in an earlier video, prior to Hammett purchasing it. It shows Phil Harris talking about the guitar’s history and doing a little performing. Harris says he is the custodian of the guitar for the owner
*The videos appeared to be no longer available on the site. Maybe someone can find them on YouTube?
)Kirk Hammett Talks About His Prize: Peter Green and Gary Moore's Les Paul
Hammett, a fan of both guitarists, purchased the guitar for a reported $2 million. In the clip below from VH-1’s That After Show, Hammett talks about the guitar during a roundtable with guitarists Michael Schenker and Damon Johnson, of Thin Lizzy and Black Star Riders.
“It’d been on the market for a few years,” Hammett says, “but the price was just way too high. “And then I kind of waltzed into a situation where the owner of the guitar needed money. And of course I totally took advantage of the situation, worked out a deal and bought it, all within an hour’s time, because I was so friggin’ blown away by the fact that I was holding a guitar that Peter Green played in Fleetwood Mac and then Gary Moore played for, like, 25 years after.”
As Hammett notes, part of this particular guitar’s mystique is down to its distinctive warm-but-trebly tone. “It’s a unique guitar in that the pickup is turned around,” he says. “It’s facing the opposite way, so when you play with both pickups on in the middle position, it creates an out-of-phase sound that sounds like a Fender Stratocaster.” Green attributed the tone to his own tinkering, claiming he’d reversed a magnet in the neck-position humbucker. In another telling of the story, a repairmen accidentally rewound one of the pickups—it’s not certain which—in reverse.
This is the version Hammett tells in the video. In all likelihood, the alteration occurred during the guitar’s manufacture. Noted guitar designer and builder Jol Dantzig had a chance to examine the guitar firsthand in June 1984, while it was owned by Moore, and found that “the magnet was reversed on one pickup,” he wrote. “Because the pickup internals looked undisturbed, I concluded that it must have been a mistake at the factory.”
Dantzig adds that Joe Bonamassa owns an original-condition Burst with the same error. Green bought the Les Paul second-hand for the equivalent of $300 and used it during his time with John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers when he took over from Eric Clapton. He continued to play it when he formed Fleetwood Mac in July 1967 with former Bluesbreaker bassist John McVie and drummer Mick Fleetwood, using it to write and record many of the band’s greatest songs, including “Oh Well,” “The Green Manalishi (With the Two-Prong Crown),” “Albatross” and “Black Magic Woman.” Shortly before he left Fleetwood Mac in 1970, Green loaned the guitar to Moore, who at the time was in his teens and still unknown.
The Irish guitarist had been a fan of Green’s and befriended the guitarist. Moore eventually purchased the Les Paul at Green’s request—so that “it would have a good home,” Green said—for about $300, the same price Green paid for it. Moore used the guitar for much of his career, including on his 1973 solo debut, and during his 1974 stint in Thin Lizzy and his tenure with Colosseum II from 1975 to 1978. The guitar can also be heard on “Parisienne Walkways,” Moore’s best-known song, from his 1978 album, Back on the Streets. Money problems forced Moore to sell the guitar in 2006 for somewhere between $750,000 and $1.2 million, according to various reports online.
It was purchased by Phil Winfield at Maverick Music and, reportedly, later put up for sale on the company's website for $2 million. Since then it has been owned by one or more private collectors before Hammett purchased it in 2014 from Richard Henry Guitars. When a fan asked Hammett via Twitter why he bought it he replied, “The best tribute is that it’s being played again instead of being neglected by people who only bought it for the investment.” Hammett has been seen performing with the guitar to play Metallica’s cover of “Whiskey in the Jar,” the traditional Irish song popularized as a rock song by Thin Lizzy in the early Seventies.
The clip also includes a conversation with Schenker about his choice of the Gibson Flying V, the model most associated with him. In addition, below this video, you can see the Peter Green Les Paul in action in an earlier video, prior to Hammett purchasing it. It shows Phil Harris talking about the guitar’s history and doing a little performing. Harris says he is the custodian of the guitar for the owner
*The videos appeared to be no longer available on the site. Maybe someone can find them on YouTube?
hirez
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Always a fan of the Santana version of "Black Magic Woman", which is a Peter Green composition, to this day absolutely still one of favorite songs and yes I want the Santana triplet of "Singing Winds, Crying Beasts and Black Magic Woman/Gypsy Queen" in superb quad. Hopefully Dutton/Vocalion will get around to releasing the original quad version of the Santana "Abraxas" album.
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Listening to the Peter Green playlist on Tidal.
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