Roxy Music -Avalon 40th anniversary Dolby Atmos Mix??

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I do like the way the SACD sounds but also feel it’s a little too soft/wispy and unfocused sounding.

I absolutely agree. I never thought with this disc was greatest thing since sliced bread like everyone claimed it to be. I have a lot better sounding DVD-Audio & SACDs--especially some overseas material like ERA's The Mass or Super Furry Animals LoveKraft.
 

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I do like the way the SACD sounds but also feel it’s a little too soft/wispy and unfocused sounding.

I absolutely agree. I never thought with this disc was greatest thing since sliced bread like everyone claimed it to be. I have a lot better sounding DVD-Audio & SACDs--especially some overseas material like ERA's The Mass or Super Furry Animals LoveKraft.
Well it just always leaves me feeling like there should be more “something” IDK, maybe just a factor of the style of music it is, you know, more soft synth and atmospheric.
 

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Well it just always leaves me feeling like there should be more “something” IDK, maybe just a factor of the style of music it is, you know, more soft synth and atmospheric.
I think I recall that the multitrack tapes existed only as 16/44 digital, and so a remix into 5.1 was never going to be true Hi-Res, and Clearmountain did the best he could with it. And the the title track was not even available in a multitrack, or it was one of the others that could not be located. There is an upmix included.

That said, it's a pretty good disc. Fagen's Nightfly might also be mixed from 16/44 to high-res? I seem to think there are more 24/92 surround mixes that originate from 16/44. Usually, they get printed to analog tape and mixed from there to soften the blow so to speak.
 

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I think I recall that the multitrack tapes existed only as 16/44 digital, and so a remix into 5.1 was never going to be true Hi-Res, and Clearmountain did the best he could with it. And the the title track was not even available in a multitrack, or it was one of the others that could not be located. There is an upmix included.
As I recall, the original multitrack tapes were claimed by the "sticky shed" syndrome - they baked and transferred them to 16/48 PCM sometime in the late '80s or early '90s. The short instrumental "India" was upmixed by gradually panning the original stereo mix around the room, not the title track.
 

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As I recall, the original multitrack tapes were claimed by the "sticky shed" syndrome - they baked and transferred them to 16/48 PCM sometime in the late '80s or early '90s. The short instrumental "India" was upmixed by gradually panning the original stereo mix around the room, not the title track.
That's right, for the remix they had to use a digital copy made in the early/mid nineties to 20bit/48kHz*

*There was an accident with the clock of the Sony digital multitrack machine during transfer so it actually has more resolution than 48kHz if you compensate for it. I think the detail are in the SACD booklet?
 

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That's right, for the remix they had to use a digital copy made in the early/mid nineties to 20bit/48kHz*

*There was an accident with the clock of the Sony digital multitrack machine during transfer so it actually has more resolution than 48kHz if you compensate for it. I think the detail are in the SACD booklet?
There's no mention of that particular issue in my SACD booklet, however there is a mention of the upmix from Bob Clearmountain - 'We were lucky that the original master tapes had been preserved, except for the instrumental "India" for which we used the original stereo mix with some fascinating, if not slightly amusing five-channel panning.'
 
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