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HiRez Poll Rush - 2112 (Five Point One) [DVD-A/BluRay Audio]

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cupboy

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Does the player even create the sound? Looks like it just sends a HDMI signal to another component that does all the work. There are no analog outputs on the machine, other than for stereo.
 

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Does the player even create the sound? Looks like it just sends a HDMI signal to another component that does all the work. There are no analog outputs on the machine, other than for stereo.
I think improved hardware, i.e. the transport system of the gear, can improve the sound even if the digital signal in theory is the same.
 

dr8track

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I've listened to this several times now and finally am ready to vote. As far as musical content, I like the album. Although, it is a little odd that it starts out as what seems to be a sci-fi rock opera, but then the second half of the album is just an assortment of songs that don't have any connection to the story told on the first half of the album.
Sonically, as many people have mentioned, it sounds great. And for what i would consider a conservative surround mix, it is better than most. There is a nice rich fullness and presence to many of the songs that comes from what they've done with the rear channels. I'm one who prefers a more aggressive and maybe creative use of the rear channels in a surround recording, so that is the one place where the disc is less than ideal for me. I do enjoy the comic book visual content. Much more enjoyable than just looking at a lyrics screen or random photos of the band. Overall, I would give this one an 8. Even if it's not what I'd consider a perfect surround mix, I'm still grateful to be getting original material that has not been mixed in surround.
 

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... it is a little odd that it starts out as what seems to be a sci-fi rock opera, but then the second half of the album is just an assortment of songs that don't have any connection to the story told on the first half of the album.
In the LP era this made sense because the A- and B-side were separate events. You might try to play the "öther" part first (from track 8), and then the "suite".
Surroundwise the first half of the album feels like the mixer held back on the surround experience, I like the second half more, in this respect. Musically it is their breakthrough, defining what was to come, a great album. Sonically it is pretty good as well.
 

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The music is a 10, but the mix doesn't add too much. It is a little nicer than stereo, so I vote 8.
 

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To me, this is the best Rush 5.1 there is. Great clarity and power. Yes, there are moments that seem to miss the mark, like the lead guitar homage to "1812 Overture" near the end of Overture. Then, later in the album, the lead intro to Bangkok is pretty loud. Some consistency there would have been good.
I LOVE watching the comic book while listening. I'd love to see this done for more concept albums.
Yes, all the Rush 5.1 releases are very, VERY conservative. Definitely discreet, but unexciting. Stuff placed mostly to fill the room, but that's primarily it.
I think it's also sad that Rush did not release albums like Vapor Trails Remix and Clockwork Angels in 5.1. As densely layered as they are, even with a very conservative mix, at least we'd get more space for various parts.
I voted 8, because I think the 5.1 mix lacks some attention to detail. Otherwise, pretty happy with this.

Regarding other Rush 5.1 mixes, my favorite is Signals. I'm pretty damn sure that alternate vocal takes, and, if memory serves, alternate guitar takes, are often/sometimes used. Being pretty familiar with the original stereo, it is fascinating to me to hear some subtle differences. It's almost an alternate album.

**Edit: I'd now rate Steven Wilson's AFtK and Chycki's Fly By Night above this.**
 
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The only Chycki-Rush 5.1 I'd heard prior to picking up this one is Moving Pictures - this is so much better! I'm voting an "8". Don't get me wrong, it's still on the conservative side in terms of surround - and it doesn't even come close to what SW did with A Farewell To Kings - but I found to be an extremely enjoyable listen nonetheless.

Though most of the band is in the front channels, I noticed a multitude of discrete effects in the rears: the flowing stream in "Discovery", the crazy panning guitar solo at the end of the 2112 suite, the middle-eastern guitar in the beginning of "Passage To Bangkok", the whispered vocals in the chorus of "The Twilight Zone", and acoustic guitars in "Tears" and "Something For Nothing".

I also absolutely love the comic book presentation that plays in sync with the album - as with Gentle Giant's The Power & The Glory, it really elevates the listening experience.

My biggest issue with this mix is that the drum kit sounds really narrow - the "wrap-around drums" effect that SW used on A Farewell To Kings would have sounded incredible if used here (or on any Rush album, really). I also felt that the lead vocal was often a bit too wet and too loud in the fronts. Plus you've got the dynamic range compression, but it sounds much better than it looks.

"2112":
2112 Suite.jpg

"Passage To Bangkok":
bangkok.jpg
 
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Mj33

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Agreed. Not sure what's up with all the criticism. The blu ray of Moving Pictures is also very good. Neal Peart once said that playing YYZ was always s challenge, even during R40. Now that is a testament to the man's unparalleled abilities on the drum kit. May he always shine brightly in the hearts of music lovers.
 

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Looks like I'm in the minority here. I really wanted to love this like I did A Farewell to Kings. Sadly I was disappointed in 2112's 5.1 Blu-Ray. The mix is "OK", but the mastering (for me) ruins a good thing. It sounds muddled and dull on my system. The drums are indistinct and almost hidden. Just to see if there was something wrong with my system, I played other superbly mix/mastered titles in succession: A Farewell to Kings (SW mix), The Nightfly, and this. OK, system working fine. So the mediocre sound (to my ears) must come from the Rush BR.

I'll go with mix=7, mastering = 5, content = 8. Average: 7
 

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Looks like I'm in the minority here. I really wanted to love this like I did A Farewell to Kings. Sadly I was disappointed in 2112's 5.1 Blu-Ray. The mix is "OK", but the mastering (for me) ruins a good thing. It sounds muddled and dull on my system. The drums are indistinct and almost hidden. Just to see if there was something wrong with my system, I played other superbly mix/mastered titles in succession: A Farewell to Kings (SW mix), The Nightfly, and this. OK, system working fine. So the mediocre sound (to my ears) must come from the Rush BR.

I'll go with mix=7, mastering = 5, content = 8. Average: 7
I agree and that pretty well sums up my opinion of this release as well.
I know the sound of the original vinyl and early CD very well. It had very strong impact.
It's like they took the total impact of the original and cut it up into 5 weaker pcs.
Steve Wilson would have taken the original dynamics and then built into it.
 

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I think this sounds pretty good overall , I agree with Edison on many points the mix is a bit conservative at times and , and I really miss the 1812 quote by Alex at the end of Overture - the comic strip menu is a nice touch too. Passage To Bangkok sounds huge! really enjoy that track , I'm going with an 8 - its a very good album and as is well documented saved Rush's career to a large degree.
 
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