HiRez Poll Santana - SANTANA III [SACD]

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Rate the SACD of Santana - SANTANA III

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texquad

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I recently purchased all 3 of these Santana SACD's even though I have the SQ vinyl and Q8 conversion's. I feel the best mix is on the debut and this might be because it was the last one to be released. Many tracks on the earlier released Abraxas & III in my opinion suffer from being too gimmicky. And yes I do like immersive mixes but some of these are abusive like the sonic kitchen sink was thrown in just for fun. For comparison look at the highly rated Doobie Bros. mixes which are immersive but don't scream "look at me I'm quad". Unfortunately this was a problem with many early mixes and I think unfortunately Abraxas & III suffer in this regard even though they seem highly regarded in the surround poll.
 

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I recently purchased all 3 of these Santana SACD's even though I have the SQ vinyl and Q8 conversion's. I feel the best mix is on the debut and this might be because it was the last one to be released. Many tracks on the earlier released Abraxas & III in my opinion suffer from being too gimmicky. And yes I do like immersive mixes but some of these are abusive like the sonic kitchen sink was thrown in just for fun. For comparison look at the highly rated Doobie Bros. mixes which are immersive but don't scream "look at me I'm quad". Unfortunately this was a problem with many early mixes and I think unfortunately Abraxas & III suffer in this regard even though they seem highly regarded in the surround poll.
So based on this, what are you voting?
 

par4ken

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I recently purchased all 3 of these Santana SACD's even though I have the SQ vinyl and Q8 conversion's. I feel the best mix is on the debut and this might be because it was the last one to be released. Many tracks on the earlier released Abraxas & III in my opinion suffer from being too gimmicky. And yes I do like immersive mixes but some of these are abusive like the sonic kitchen sink was thrown in just for fun. For comparison look at the highly rated Doobie Bros. mixes which are immersive but don't scream "look at me I'm quad". Unfortunately this was a problem with many early mixes and I think unfortunately Abraxas & III suffer in this regard even though they seem highly regarded in the surround poll.
I agree that the early Santana's are gimmicky but remember that the early decoders had poor separation, so the mix had to exaggerated quite a bit to generate a more pleasing effect when decoded. It only seems over the top when you listen to a high quality discrete version (the SACD).

Most of us still love the effect(s) anyway even though overblown! I also love those old ping pong type stereo mixes!
 

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Some great đź‘Ť additions to this thread today.

Although III is an early Quad mix, I like it better than the Abraxas Quad mix. Less gimmicky. Call it gimmicky, but I can't imagine No One to Depend On without the ending in Quad. It belongs.

Musically, it's spectacular. No One may be the best track. IMHO, their best LP.
 

texquad

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I tagree with Par4ken on the shitty decoders but also factor in the joystick mentality of the 70's for some of these over the top mixes. We're so used today's active but sensitive mixes that these throwbacks can be abrasive. In the case of these Santana and other similar time pieces hopefully we'll live long enough to hear a modern surround alternative.
And no I didn't vote.
 
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Santana III in quad on the Japanese 7" SACD series sounds marvelous don't it. The overall sound quality here as well as all that percussion, some piano (and yet some of the backing vocals as well) in the rear speakers is quite nice. The strong separation here wins me over rather than sounding gimmicky. Very clean sound from perfectly preserved analog masters and a mix that has incredible separation, yet things are not ping-ponging around much at all (which I feared), a few reverb trails maybe but not main elements. I don't find the mix to be a joystick ride at all.

Things are separated really nicely - I think it holds up well for a few reasons, the sound quality of the recording/mix, and the lack of ping-pong gimmicks. 70s rock in quad at it's finest.

Again a 9.5 that I'm inclined to rate a 10. This has too many good things going for it to be less than a 10. Mind boggling to think that this mix sat around for 50 years after that original release. This is an good example the kind of quad album I am waiting for to come out on modern disc. Great album, strong production, excellent quad mix, and mastered well to play loud on our surround rigs.
 
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