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Sly & the Family Stone Greatest Hits - 4.0 Multichannel SACD (October 2015)

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JerseyEd

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I bought mine from Bullmoose in September 2016, months after the error was found. My copy does not have the -3. I opened both the CD and HR rips in Audacity. Each time I expanded the view and moved the line over various points. To me it seems that everything lines up correctly. Is it possible that I have have a good non-3 copy, or is there something else I should look/listen for?
 

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Only on the matrix.
What are the known matrices, good and bad? Thread search came up empty.
My mistake, it's on the catalogue number on the label: AFZ5 215-3, I'm not aware of any other editions that are correct. I imagine the matrix numbers are different, but I don't recall checking what the old one was. The quad mix is not affected on the bad copies: it's the mono mix: it's not equally balanced left and right. I can't recall if it's the SACD layer, CD layer or both.
 

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My mistake, it's on the catalogue number on the label: AFZ5 215-3, I'm not aware of any other editions that are correct. I imagine the matrix numbers are different, but I don't recall checking what the old one was. The quad mix is not affected on the bad copies: it's the mono mix: it's not equally balanced left and right. I can't recall if it's the SACD layer, CD layer or both.
Not certain which version I have but since the quad is great I haven't bothered listening to the other layers. Thanks for confirming that I don't need to be concerned!
 

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I see what you did there. ;)

Different strokes...
I see what you did there. ;)

Different strokes...

Im so glad i found both this site n the other one...shf...my wallet has become very empty but im Just so happy to be listening ti this older music in quad/surround. Its great and ive learned so much from both forums...love the music n starting to make some online friends...so yeah thanks for being here guys
 

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Can any Sly experts shed some light on a couple of differences between the Quad and mono versions on this SACD?

1) Dance To The Music — the Quad version is missing the first vocal breakdown (at around 15 seconds in). I’ve never heard the song without that first breakdown; what’s the origin of this edit? A 45 release of some sort? (The mono version has the first breakdown intact.) It just feels off/wrong to me — even if it was edited in rather than being recorded that way, the first breakdown is such a cool foreshadowing of things to come.

2) You Can Make It If You Try — the Quad version is a half-step lower in pitch than the album version I’m used to hearing. Basically, the Quad version is in F major, while the original album version is in F-sharp major. (The mono version is in the “right” key as well.) To clarify, they’re the same takes — the Quad version just runs slower, and to me, it really feels draggy as a result.
 
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