doctors11
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but didn't Richard Carpenter change some of the instrumental solos when he came out with the Singles SACD?
Songs CHANGED in Quad/5.1
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My ex-bro-in-law played Tubular Bells at a party back in the 70s and I was in the quad seat. There was an out-of-the-blue chain saw roaring at the very end.
Yes, there were lots of differences in the quad vinyl copy of Wish You Were Here that I had. (I've dug around but I can't find it now in my collection, but it was my most-played copy of my fave album.) There were different guitar solos, extra bars here, fewer bars there, different wind sounds and the preprise of the last Crazy Diamond part at the end of the first side.
Looks like you quoted my 14th post ever on the forum. Cool to see it pop up again! Thanks!
Actually, that was just my own current recollection. I'd love to read your post, if you can post a link.
I was disappointed that the Wish Immersion box did not have the version from my quad vinyl included. I did not have a quad system back then, but loved to play that in stereo. My fave Dark Side was the British quad, as I found the bass was more solid, so I bought Wish in quad too, and was blown away that it was actually different versions of several songs and not just a different mix.
Eddie's passing reminded me that "Running With The Devil" on VH's Best Vol. 1 has the verses and guitar solo in different order than the original album version. The solo that comes after the second verse on the original album version moves to after the first verse, the third verse becomes the second verse and the second verse becomes the third. The second solo moves between the second and third verses instead of after the third verse. With this arrangement the song ends with a verse and chorus rather than a solo and chorus. It sounds like it its the same take (I think the solo in both versions is actually the same recording repeated), just a different arrangement via editing.
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The first one that popped into my head was Bon Jovi - "Livin' on a Prayer". 5.1 DVDA version has a completely different ending. I guess I'm the only hair band kid from the 80s. I must've heard it on MTV a million times, it has been burned into my brain and the different ending still makes me smirk a little every time I listen to it.
In addition to the extended ending, there are a few other differences - the intro has extra sound effects (what sounds like birds chirping?) and the signature talkbox part comes in earlier. Also, the talkbox track was left open during the verses on the 5.1, whereas it was brought in-and-out at key moments on the original stereo.
JediJoker
2K Club - QQ Super Nova
More notably, "Wind Up" is a completely different recording!
That sounds like it might be the 'airplane crash' version
If you’re going to bring up, on a surround forum, tracks that have never been available in surround it’s probably best to at least mention that. Many newcomers will get their hopes up and wonder why they can’t find the surround release.
[from Wikipedia]
Initial pressings of the Van Halen compilation Best Of, Vol.1 contained an alternate edit of "Runnin' with the Devil" where the verses, chorus and solos were arranged in a different order than that of the original album version. It was reported that this was accidental and subsequent pressings have replaced this version with the one found on Van Halen.
Plus some veterans who wonder if they were asleep and somehow missed out on yet another Holy Grail.
Plus some veterans who wonder if they were asleep and somehow missed out on yet another Holy Grail.
Including me.
More than once, I actually have missed out on a release.
I don't think anyone has mentioned this one yet, but Atom Heart Mother is probably my favorite Floyd album—I play the title track in quad pretty regularly (from the Early Years BD) but last night let the whole album play through for a more critical listen and realized the guitar solo in Fat Old Sun is a completely different take!
I posted this in the poll thread for James Taylor's "One Man Dog", but not many noticed it, so here it is again. Listen to the file, it's pretty cool
Here's the deal with 'One Man Dog'. I spent an afternoon with the Quad Reel and the CD of the title. Here's what I found. The tracks with significant differences I put in bold:
01-One Man Dog (Different Lead Vocal, Longer Fade-Out on the Quad, considerably longer)
02-Nobody But You (Longer Fade on Quad, considerably longer)
03-Chili Dog (Both the Same)
04-Fool For You (Different Lead Vocal)
05-Instrumental I (Quad Fade lasts longer at higher level, but about the same length)
06-New Tune (Both the Same)
07-Back on the Street (Both the Same)
08-Don't Let Me Be Lonely (Both the Same)
09-Woh, Don't You Know (Completely Different Take, Vocal, Time)
10-One Morning in May (Both the Same)
11-Instrumental 2 (Both the Same)
12-Someone (Both the Same)
13-Hymn (Both the Same)
14-Fanfare (Different Vocal Track)
15-Little David (Both the Same)
16-Mescalito (Both the Same)
17-Dance (Both the Same)
18-Jig (Both the Same)
Now, here's a treat for those that can play quad (6ch) files. I am posting a link (for informational purposes only. like they do on YouTube). It's a file with the STEREO version of the title track in the FRONTS, and the front channels of the QUADRAPHONIC reel in the rears. If you play it here, or download it and play it, you can hear James sing the stereo vocal in the fronts while he sings the quad vocals in the rears.
If you play it right from the link, you should get a stereo blend, which will allow you to hear the two lead tracks together
It's pretty closely in sync. It wasn't easy for me to do, so it's not totally perfect, but you can clearly hear the passages where his voice goes up or down on one track while he goes in the opposite direction in the other. Most of the track he stays the same, which is pretty amazing if the entire track is two completely different takes.
You can also hear (or see and watch) the extended fade. In fact, on the CD, the next tune had already started before the fade was over on the quad, thus extending the length of the entire recording, which is duplicated with a few other tracks. That is why the quad version clocks in longer than the stereo.
https://mega.nz/file/7UozGSKa#8dbFLOXmTXWJ0_Te-vSrHQiKTGGeCUWWRjLC0M4woQ8
Here's the deal with 'One Man Dog'. I spent an afternoon with the Quad Reel and the CD of the title. Here's what I found. The tracks with significant differences I put in bold:
01-One Man Dog (Different Lead Vocal, Longer Fade-Out on the Quad, considerably longer)
02-Nobody But You (Longer Fade on Quad, considerably longer)
03-Chili Dog (Both the Same)
04-Fool For You (Different Lead Vocal)
05-Instrumental I (Quad Fade lasts longer at higher level, but about the same length)
06-New Tune (Both the Same)
07-Back on the Street (Both the Same)
08-Don't Let Me Be Lonely (Both the Same)
09-Woh, Don't You Know (Completely Different Take, Vocal, Time)
10-One Morning in May (Both the Same)
11-Instrumental 2 (Both the Same)
12-Someone (Both the Same)
13-Hymn (Both the Same)
14-Fanfare (Different Vocal Track)
15-Little David (Both the Same)
16-Mescalito (Both the Same)
17-Dance (Both the Same)
18-Jig (Both the Same)
Now, here's a treat for those that can play quad (6ch) files. I am posting a link (for informational purposes only. like they do on YouTube). It's a file with the STEREO version of the title track in the FRONTS, and the front channels of the QUADRAPHONIC reel in the rears. If you play it here, or download it and play it, you can hear James sing the stereo vocal in the fronts while he sings the quad vocals in the rears.
If you play it right from the link, you should get a stereo blend, which will allow you to hear the two lead tracks together
It's pretty closely in sync. It wasn't easy for me to do, so it's not totally perfect, but you can clearly hear the passages where his voice goes up or down on one track while he goes in the opposite direction in the other. Most of the track he stays the same, which is pretty amazing if the entire track is two completely different takes.
You can also hear (or see and watch) the extended fade. In fact, on the CD, the next tune had already started before the fade was over on the quad, thus extending the length of the entire recording, which is duplicated with a few other tracks. That is why the quad version clocks in longer than the stereo.
https://mega.nz/file/7UozGSKa#8dbFLOXmTXWJ0_Te-vSrHQiKTGGeCUWWRjLC0M4woQ8
Just re-visited this title (first surround disc I bought), came looking for a place to post, saw this thread had revived.
A wonderful minute-long intro with Joe South noodling on guitar as Aretha warms up her pipes in the gospel tradition, much like Pop Staples and Mavis.
A bonus that makes this disc literally worth its weight in gold.
https://www.discogs.com/release/6087883-Aretha-Franklin-The-Best-Of-Aretha-Franklin
The trademark tremolo guitar licks at the introduction were played by Joe South.
The song was edited for LP & 45;
the original long version appeared on the quadrophonic LP The Best of Aretha Franklin in 1973
(later released on a quadrophonic DVD by Rhino in 2010), and on the 1995 Rhino remastering of Lady Soul.
A wonderful minute-long intro with Joe South noodling on guitar as Aretha warms up her pipes in the gospel tradition, much like Pop Staples and Mavis.
A bonus that makes this disc literally worth its weight in gold.
https://www.discogs.com/release/6087883-Aretha-Franklin-The-Best-Of-Aretha-Franklin
The trademark tremolo guitar licks at the introduction were played by Joe South.
The song was edited for LP & 45;
the original long version appeared on the quadrophonic LP The Best of Aretha Franklin in 1973
(later released on a quadrophonic DVD by Rhino in 2010), and on the 1995 Rhino remastering of Lady Soul.
| Recorded | February 16 – December 20, 1967 |
|---|---|
| Studio | FAME Studios (Muscle Shoals, AL) |
- Aretha Franklin - lead vocals and piano
- Jimmy Johnson and Joe South - guitars[1]
- Spooner Oldham - Wurlitzer electric piano
- Tommy Cogbill - bass
- Roger Hawkins - drums
- The Sweet Inspirations, Carolyn Franklin, Erma Franklin & Ellie Greenwich - background vocals
Well over 40 years ago I heard the quad version on a mono clock radio when a then-quad radio station played it. As soon as that little guitar lick popped up at the beginning, I knew what the song was...but then suddenly it was COMPLETELY different! I had no clue what was going on and didn't figure it out definitively until decades later when a stereo mixdown appeared on a reissue of Lady Soul.
barfle
2K Club - QQ Super Nova
In the SQ album of David Essex “Rock On,” the title track has an extra echo in the back. Kind of disturbing.
blue.monk
1K Club - QQ Shooting Star
Quite right, Penny restored loads of elements that were muted on the originals. A few more that come to mind are Writing (backing vocals during guitar solo) and We All Fall in Love Sometimes (additional Mellotron and string synth, if memory serves, in bridge).
Most thrilling for me is that occasionally we‘re treated to Elton’s piano during sections where muted in the stereo mix. These include Lucy in the Sky and Saturday Night’s Alright.
Most thrilling for me is that occasionally we‘re treated to Elton’s piano during sections where muted in the stereo mix. These include Lucy in the Sky and Saturday Night’s Alright.
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