• QuadraphonicQuad welcomes you and encourages your participation! Treat all members with respect. Please keep all discussions civil, even when you have a strong opinion on a particular topic.

    Do not offer for free, offer for sale, offer for trade, or request copies or files of copyrighted material - no matter how rare or unavailable to the public they might be. We do not condone the illegal sharing of music. There are many places on the internet where you can participate in such transactions, but QuadraphonicQuad is not one of them. We are here to encourage and support new multichannel releases from those companies that still provide them and as such the distribution of illegal copies of recordings is counter-productive to that effort. Any posts of this sort will be deleted without notification.

    Please try to avoid discussions that pit one format against another. Hint for new users: make liberal use of the search facilities here at QuadraphonicQuad. Our message base is an incredibly rich resource of detailed information on virtually all topics pertaining to surround-sound. You will be surprised at what you can find with a little digging!

Sony X800 / Possibly Others - Do they handle Quad FLAC Correctly?

Help Support QuadraphonicQuad:

Clint Eastwood

2K Club - QQ Super Nova
Joined
Jun 11, 2014
Messages
11,452
Location
Int Space Station
It didn't work straight away with DSD over network, I'm not sure if that was down to J River or Sony? The trick is to get the AVR to see .dsf files as .dsd files and then it should play over the network... Sony aren't renowned for their software side so I kind of put it down to them but who knows?

I'm not holding out for them to ever issue a fix for gapless, as good as that would be... With the 4.0 files at least there is a way we can do it ourselves...
Sony's track record of "fixing issues" or adding features via a firmware update is a poor one...when they actually want to add features or provide a fix they usually just do it in the next model...
 

der_angsthase

Active Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2015
Messages
68
Location
Germany
Sony's track record of "fixing issues" or adding features via a firmware update is a poor one...when they actually want to add features or provide a fix they usually just do it in the next model...
Maybe we should collect signatures from users in this forum for them to consider updating the firmware to support this?
 
Last edited:

bming

Senior Member
Since 2002/2003
Joined
Aug 26, 2003
Messages
212
Location
Australia
That is so weird. You would think Sony would have had to do something for it NOT to play DVD-R's.
Slight Correction. It does not play my DVD-Audio DVD-R's. Seems OK with DVD-Video. How weird is that?
 

bming

Senior Member
Since 2002/2003
Joined
Aug 26, 2003
Messages
212
Location
Australia
Could someone tell me the problem I having with playing my burnt DVD-A's (using DVD-Rs) on the Sony UBP X800 is unique to me or is it a general problem with this machine. I convert all my quad records and tapes to DVD-R so it's a big thing - though I have a number of other players that do not have any issues at all.
 

François

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 20, 2013
Messages
293
Location
France
The UBP-X800 does not play burnt DVD-Audio. It does not play burnt SACD either. It's a feature, unfortunately. A sort of copy protection for hi-res audio. But you can rip your discs as multichannel FLAC or DFF files, put the files on an USB drive and it will play them!
 

bming

Senior Member
Since 2002/2003
Joined
Aug 26, 2003
Messages
212
Location
Australia
The UBP-X800 does not play burnt DVD-Audio. It does not play burnt SACD either. It's a feature, unfortunately. A sort of copy protection for hi-res audio. But you can rip your discs as multichannel FLAC or DFF files, put the files on an USB drive and it will play them!
Crazy - You would not call my converted records and tapes copies - nor audio I create myself and convert to DVD-A. Certainly a big minus to Sony for that one. Except for that it is a great player in all other ways,
 

hobie1dog

300 Club - QQ All-Star
QQ Supporter
Joined
Oct 26, 2008
Messages
309
Location
Cornelius, NC
After having my 1000ES player not working- HDMI port only let's sound come out for 6 seconds, then cuts out for 1 second. It plays audio out of the optical port fine, but this destroys my faith in Sony products. Sony support (Indian/Mahavishnu) was worthless after an hour on the phone. The trouble with the x800 is not having the analog outputs for the Surround Master.
 

keywhiz

1K Club - QQ Shooting Star
QQ Supporter
Joined
Jun 30, 2014
Messages
1,126
Location
Northern Nevada
The UBP-X800 does not play burnt DVD-Audio. It does not play burnt SACD either. It's a feature, unfortunately. A sort of copy protection for hi-res audio. But you can rip your discs as multichannel FLAC or DFF files, put the files on an USB drive and it will play them!
Is DVD-Audio even a format worth “protecting” these days? It barely exists!
 

der_angsthase

Active Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2015
Messages
68
Location
Germany
Is DVD-Audio even a format worth “protecting” these days? It barely exists!
I guess it's in the specifications. It checks for the watermark on archived DVD-As, doesn't get it and thus locks you out. Most of my archived titles DVD-V-Portion (which contain the DTS or DD stream) work flawlessly though.
 

filper

1K Club - QQ Shooting Star
Joined
Mar 24, 2007
Messages
1,342
Location
Wasaga Beach, ON
Could someone tell me the problem I having with playing my burnt DVD-A's (using DVD-Rs) on the Sony UBP X800 is unique to me or is it a general problem with this machine. I convert all my quad records and tapes to DVD-R so it's a big thing - though I have a number of other players that do not have any issues at all.
I have two X800's. You could do what I did and rip all of your DVD-A's to FLAC with DVD Audio Extractor (free for 30 days) and load the rips to an external hard drive for playback. It's a good way to archive your music as well. Playback is a snap. I did separate folders for Stereo and M/C files. Naming does require a fair bit of typing, but it is worth it.
 
Last edited:

albertop

Senior Member
QQ Supporter
Joined
Jul 19, 2017
Messages
205
Location
Melbourne, Australia
I'm almost pulling the trigger on the new Sony UBP-X800M2. I'm looking for a simple and valid solution for my parent's house. They currently have an old and nice Technics CD player, as well as an LG BR player, which doesn't handle SACDs and DVD-Audios (no multichannel). I think this Sony would do the job, even though 4.0 FLAC files will need conversion to 5.0 or 5.1 before being played. That's fine.

My questions are:
1. Can I find anything better than this, even at a higher price point? For myself, I have a Cambridge Audio Azur and it plays everything and have never had a problem with it. I don't know why Cambridge Audio doesn't do BR players anymore...
2. Is this Sony able to rip SACDs? I only have this list as a reference, but I'm sure it's outdated: https://hifihaven.org/index.php?threads/rip-sacd-with-a-blu-ray-player.3652/#post-69000

Thanks
 

ubertrout

1K Club - QQ Shooting Star
Joined
Oct 12, 2011
Messages
1,382
I'm almost pulling the trigger on the new Sony UBP-X800M2. I'm looking for a simple and valid solution for my parent's house. They currently have an old and nice Technics CD player, as well as an LG BR player, which doesn't handle SACDs and DVD-Audios (no multichannel). I think this Sony would do the job, even though 4.0 FLAC files will need conversion to 5.0 or 5.1 before being played. That's fine.

My questions are:
1. Can I find anything better than this, even at a higher price point? For myself, I have a Cambridge Audio Azur and it plays everything and have never had a problem with it. I don't know why Cambridge Audio doesn't do BR players anymore...
2. Is this Sony able to rip SACDs? I only have this list as a reference, but I'm sure it's outdated: https://hifihaven.org/index.php?threads/rip-sacd-with-a-blu-ray-player.3652/#post-69000

Thanks
Sony makes the UBP-1100 as well, or should soon if it's not out already. But the main difference is an upgraded analog (stereo) out.
 

albertop

Senior Member
QQ Supporter
Joined
Jul 19, 2017
Messages
205
Location
Melbourne, Australia
Sony makes the UBP-1100 as well, or should soon if it's not out already. But the main difference is an upgraded analog (stereo) out.
I've seen a couple of reviews online. Built quality doesn't seem great, it looks identical to the X800. It's a pity that Sony doesn't care about a premium design at this price point. But, well, as long as the sound is good I'm in!
 

LuvMyQuad

2K Club - QQ Super Nova
QQ Supporter
Joined
Aug 12, 2010
Messages
2,287
Location
Western NY
My questions are:
1. Can I find anything better than this, even at a higher price point? For myself, I have a Cambridge Audio Azur and it plays everything and have never had a problem with it. I don't know why Cambridge Audio doesn't do BR players anymore...
2. Is this Sony able to rip SACDs? I only have this list as a reference, but I'm sure it's outdated: https://hifihaven.org/index.php?threads/rip-sacd-with-a-blu-ray-player.3652/#post-69000
1. I believe the Cambridge Players were based on re-badged Oppo models. With Oppo gone, perhaps they haven't found a suitable replacement.
2. To my knowledge, the players included on that list were the only ones to use the specific chip that provided the security gap that allowed SACD ripping. That chip is no longer in production and is no longer used.
 

humprof

1K Club - QQ Shooting Star
Joined
Jun 10, 2016
Messages
1,426
Location
NoCal
I'm almost pulling the trigger on the new Sony UBP-X800M2.

[snip]

Is this Sony able to rip SACDs? I only have this list as a reference, but I'm sure it's outdated: https://hifihaven.org/index.php?threads/rip-sacd-with-a-blu-ray-player.3652/#post-69000
Worth perusing @beerking 's thread, too.


I believe his latest update of the list is in this post from September. Pretty sure newer Sonys--including all versions of the X800--are not included.
 

albertop

Senior Member
QQ Supporter
Joined
Jul 19, 2017
Messages
205
Location
Melbourne, Australia
Worth perusing @beerking 's thread, too.


I believe his latest update of the list is in this post from September. Pretty sure newer Sonys--including all versions of the X800--are not included.
Thank you.
 
Top