I never heard the old DVD-A, but the poll comments here indicate that improvements could be made:
https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/queensryche-empire-dvd-a.7099/
Steven Wilson Steven Wilson on Bob Lefsetz Podcast
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I never heard the old DVD-A, but the poll comments here indicate that improvements could be made:
https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/queensryche-empire-dvd-a.7099/
The Division Bell - Floyd
it has its fans but i was never totally knocked out by it
Assuming 1 track for STMPE time stamp per machine to sync them together that is 4x23 = 92 tracks! That's a lot of tracks, so which American band would have used that many tracks in the 90s, and also sold a lot of copies? REM? and they have done some Atmos releases. What about Styx as lots of layers in their albums?
fthesoundguy
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I listened to the whole interview and it was really great. A couple of wonderful takes that I didn't know:
"Aqualung's master tape machine was out of alignment and the stereo master was harmed from that." That is amazing and I might have to go seek out his remix and compare.
"Man of the People is supposed to be a collaboration of Marvin Gaye and Pink Floyd." Again, I hear the PF similarities and he even admitted he cannot sing anywhere close to Gaye, but I guess I hear some similarities of him.
I'm going to keep my hat in the ring for MJ's Dangerous. There is this little tidbit and makes me think that he could have 90+ tracks for some songs.
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/classic-tracks-michael-jackson-black-or-white
"Thereafter, the sessions moved to Westlake, where Bruce Swedien utilised one room, Bottrell used another and, eventually, drummer/percussionist/synth player Bryan Loren worked in a third. Armed with a Neve console, Bottrell used a pair of 24-track Studer analogue tape machines to record initial tracks and then compiled things on Mitsubishi 32-track."
Is that three different people with at least one 24 track machine in each room? I have to think that having four 24-track tape machines is EXPENSIVE. Who in the early 90s could demand anything from a record company? MJ was a legend by then. Also, Black and White is the most expensive music video of all time, so money wouldn't be an issue for the actual music as well.
It's fun to speculate on what album he could be referring to...
"Aqualung's master tape machine was out of alignment and the stereo master was harmed from that." That is amazing and I might have to go seek out his remix and compare.
"Man of the People is supposed to be a collaboration of Marvin Gaye and Pink Floyd." Again, I hear the PF similarities and he even admitted he cannot sing anywhere close to Gaye, but I guess I hear some similarities of him.
I'm going to keep my hat in the ring for MJ's Dangerous. There is this little tidbit and makes me think that he could have 90+ tracks for some songs.
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/classic-tracks-michael-jackson-black-or-white
"Thereafter, the sessions moved to Westlake, where Bruce Swedien utilised one room, Bottrell used another and, eventually, drummer/percussionist/synth player Bryan Loren worked in a third. Armed with a Neve console, Bottrell used a pair of 24-track Studer analogue tape machines to record initial tracks and then compiled things on Mitsubishi 32-track."
Is that three different people with at least one 24 track machine in each room? I have to think that having four 24-track tape machines is EXPENSIVE. Who in the early 90s could demand anything from a record company? MJ was a legend by then. Also, Black and White is the most expensive music video of all time, so money wouldn't be an issue for the actual music as well.
It's fun to speculate on what album he could be referring to...
I hope for something new. Like when INXS came out of nowhere for KICK 30, now that was cool.
Please no Pink Floyd, sick of Pink Floyd.
Tired of the same old (SOS).
Please no Pink Floyd, sick of Pink Floyd.
Tired of the same old (SOS).
It won't be Floyd, for a variety of reasons:
- They're not American
- Their remixers of choice are James Guthrie (Waters-era albums) and Andy Jackson (Gilmour-era albums)
- Division Bell's 5.1 mix was just reissued in late 2019 as part of the Later Years mega set
Mcallister
500 Club - QQ All-Star
I really hope it’s not queensryche
ctoelle
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That was a really good interview. I was amazed how much Steven talked about his surround mixing. Good to hear just how much Elliot Scheiner influenced him at the start and continues to present time (mainly in Stevens speaker choices)
Really curious what the "Big American album" is that he's working on
Really curious what the "Big American album" is that he's working on
Looking at the top selling 100 albums of the 90's, could be Garth Brooks!!! He has at least 3 albums in the list.
van1
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I think you need to ‘get a grip’, pun intended
Although i dont think a 5.1 of Aerosmiths get a grip would add much
Alice in Chains-Dirt
I'm willing to wait and see what the "big American record" is. I'm more intrigued by the report that he's doing 7 to 8 albums per year. (And I'm hoping that one day, if he just keeps publicly begging long enough, Kate Bush will come around and make one of his dreams come true.)
I loved hearing how he painstakingly builds his stereo remixes, 5 seconds at a time (!), by comparing the multis against the original mix, reverse-engineering and reconstructing it from scratch. (Also appreciated the shout-out to @Steel Woole for his invitation to work on Chicago II--although it was dismaying to hear about the band's dismissive reaction, especially in light of the dog's breakfast that their chosen remixer subsequently made of CTA.)
Finally, it was great to hear him say this about Oranges & Lemons, which was recorded digitally at 48kHz/16 bits, but sounds fabulous: "People forget that a great producer and a great engineer is a lot more important than the resolution of the recording."
I loved hearing how he painstakingly builds his stereo remixes, 5 seconds at a time (!), by comparing the multis against the original mix, reverse-engineering and reconstructing it from scratch. (Also appreciated the shout-out to @Steel Woole for his invitation to work on Chicago II--although it was dismaying to hear about the band's dismissive reaction, especially in light of the dog's breakfast that their chosen remixer subsequently made of CTA.)
Finally, it was great to hear him say this about Oranges & Lemons, which was recorded digitally at 48kHz/16 bits, but sounds fabulous: "People forget that a great producer and a great engineer is a lot more important than the resolution of the recording."
Who knows about SW and Kate Bush (also not American); but noticed @Stephen W Tayler has also mixed some Kate Bush... hmmm...
Chili Peppers would likely be amazing
